The only time I have been fined (and I did deserve it) I got a paper
>to prove it was indeed a legal fine (the other part of the paper
>remained in the official booklet): didn't you get such a paper? Or have
>*you* tried an unofficial arrangement? Readers will welcome advice :-)


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The police can find a reason, once they look for it.

The Fines are always legal, and I don't even argue that.
All I'm saying, that to stop a vacationer every 35 miles is
not most desirable, and that On the Spot Fines are corruptive.

Laszlo Balogh

Gyorgy Kovacs ) writes:
> Wally Keeler > wrote:
>>td >: Fri, 29 Nov 1996
>>|interesting way to look at things when somebody is making fun
>>|of you big time and you run out of tricks...
>>I never run out of tricks. I just decide once in a while to turn
>>it off -- 
> Sure. On the same analogy my Trabant could go 220 miles per hour, I'm just 
> being easy on the gas pedal. ;->*
Trabbie? Anyone with intelligence would prefer in-line skating as more
reliable mode of transportation than a Trabbie -- now I feel sorry for
you. Well, sorry for the dust as I transpoet myself to alternative
peripheries.

Will you help me
My father was AUREL BELA POLONYI
Born OKTOBER 15 1913 in TISZAPALKONYA

his father was POLONYI ANTAL
his mother GIBAS ANNA

is it possible to have news over members off the family

email : 

Can anyone help me with some phrases I found in an American book I'm
trying to translate and I think are Hungarian? Well, I don't know if
the spelling is correct but here they are:
"kitchi lofass a shegitbe" and "minghe morte"
Thanks in advance

Laszlo Balogh > wrote:
>
>The Fines are always legal, and I don't even argue that.
>All I'm saying, that to stop a vacationer every 35 miles is
>not most desirable, and that On the Spot Fines are corruptive.

Well, I, too, find those seemingly random and arbitrary traffic checks
unnerving, especially when accompanied by rude behavior.  This is one of
the reasons I like to rent my cars at the German airport; the Hungarian
police does seem to be more considerate with foreign cars.

On the other hand, I was told that those traffic stops are to a large
extent intended to put a break on car teft which experienced a major
explosion since '89.

The on-spot payments may also have some excuse in the very primitive
banking system there; most transactions are still in cache.  They also
don't trust people to show up later at a court.  Not to mention
foreigners who could leave the country before such traffic infractions
are even filed in some computer.  So they have a long way to go.

Joe

Could you help me in finding lids of my family.

My father's name is POLONYI AUREL BELA borned october 15 1913 in
TISZAPALKONYA.
His father POLONYI ANTAL
His mother GIBAS ANNA

Also the family of POLONYI MIHALY december 26 1923 in NAGGVAYAS (Romania).

Is there a more concerned newsgroup?

english/french/ungarn  angol/franciaul/m

My adress  

Thannks.

In article >,  says...

Estonian translation added:

>Some Sumerian morphemes and modern U-A words.
>
>(Source: Cso"ke, S ndor, "Sum‚r-finn-mongol-t”r”k ”sszehasonlĄt˘ nyelvtan", 
>Buenos Aires: Magyar O"skutat s Kiad sa, 1974. - Sumerian-Finnish-Mongolian-
>Turkish Comparative Grammar)
>
>Sumerian:       bur 411,104 (to drill, to riddle with holes)
>Finnish:        porata (it drills)       
Estonian:	puur (drill)
>Hungarian:      fŁr (")
>Turkish:        burgu (drill - noun)
>Kalmuk Mongol:  burçu (")
>
>Sumerian:       bar 74, 68/302 (family, village)
>Finnish:        perhe (family)
Estonian:	pere (family)
>Hungarian:      v ros (city)
>Old Turkish:    balIq (")
>Mongol:         balgasun (city, village)
>
>Sumerian:       bur3 411,32 (livestock, four-legged animal, cow)
>Finnish:        poro (reindeer)
Estonian:	pőder (elk but also reindeer = pőhjapőder)
>Hungarian:      borjŁ (livestock)
>Osmanli Turk:   buzaçI (two year-old livestock) 
>Buriat Mongol:  bur– (livestock)
>
>Sumerian:       bad 69,100 (to fall apart, to be fallen)
>Finnish:        potea (it breaks apart)
Estonian:	?
>Hungarian:      sz‚tpattan (" - "sz‚t-" is a prefix meaning "apart". "pattan"
>                            is the root meaning "break".)
>Turkish:        patlamak (to burst)
>Mongol:         butal- (it falls apart)
>
>Sumerian:       bad 152 8,4 (wall, stuffing)
>Finnish:        pato (stuffing)
Estonian:	pais (stuffing)
>Hungarian:      fal (wall)
>Kyrgyz Turk:    bit„ (it closes away - pertaining to arrows?)
>Mongol:         biteç (closed away)
>
>Sumerian:       gab 167,55/57a (to grasp, to get, to catch)
>Finnish:        kaapata (it gets, it catches)
Estonian:	kaaperdada (catch, hijack)
>Hungarian:      kap (")
>Turkish:        kap (pot - recepticle, something that catches)
>Mongol:         qabla- (it catches, it finds)
>
>Sumerian:       ab(-ba) 128,13a (father)
>Finnish:        appi (father-in-law)
Estonian:	app (father-in-law in certain dialect)
>Hungarian:      apa (father)
>Turkish:        aba (")
>Mongol:         aav (")
>
>Sumerian:       s^ub 68,9 (to flatten)
>Finnish:        lappea (page)
Estonian:	lapata (to page)
>Hungarian:      lap (")
>Sakha Turk:     s„bird„x (page, leaf)
>Kalmuk Mongol:  napts^i (leaf)
>
>Sumerian:       gab 167,56 (copy, picture, duplicate)
>Finnish:        kuva (picture)
Estonian:	kuva (picture in dialect)
>Hungarian:      k‚p (")
>Turkish:        k„p (")
>Mongol:         keb (example, as in...)
>
>Sumerian:       gib-i/=gig/446,3/4 (be sick, pain, illness)
>Finnish:        kipe„ (sick)
Estonian:	kibe (bitter but also hard)
>Hungarian:      meggebed (it is sick - "meg-" is a prefix)
>Turkish:        gebermek (to pass away)
>Manchu:         gebsere- (be sour)
>                 
>Sumerian:       gir11 152,19 (to stretch)
>Finnish:        kire„ (tight)
Estonian:	?
>Hungarian:      g”rcs (spasm)
>Turkish:        germek (to tighten)
>Mongol:         kere- (it binds up, it tightens)
>
>Sumerian:       sig 592, 10ff (tight, narrow)
>Finnish:        tiukka (tight)
Estonian:	tihe (tight)
>Hungarian:      szu"k (")
>Turkish:        sIkI (")
>Mongol:         siqam (tight, pressed together)
>
>Sumerian:       gig 456,43 (hatred, to hate)
>Finnish:        kiukka (hatred)
Estonian:	?
>Hungarian:      gyu"l”l (it hates)
>Old Turkish:    k„k (")
>Mongol:         j^igs^i (")
>
>Sumerian:       s^ag5 356,5/7 (be healthy, good, goodness, nice)
>Finnish:        hyv„ (good)
Estonian:	hüva (good)
>Hungarian:      j˘ (")
>Turkish:        sag^ (healthy)
>Bashqort Turk:  hau (")
>Mongol:         sajin (good)
>
>Sumerian:       sig7 351,6 (to live, to sit)
>Finnish:        sija (dwelling, place)
Estonian:	?
>Hungarian:      sz‚k (chair)
>Turkish:        sakIn (inhabitant)
>Mongol:         sagu- (it sits, it dwells)
>
>Sumerian:       gis^ 296,10 (man, master, sir, gentleman)
>Finnish:        is„nta (sir, landlord)
Estonian:	isand (sir, master)
>Hungarian:      gazda (landowner?)
>Old Turkish:    iy„ (gentleman)
>Mongol:         ej^en (sir, ruler)
>
>Sumerian:       gal2 80,3 (to be)
>Finnish:        olla (to be)
Estonian:	olla (to be)
>Hungarian:      val- (it is - old form)
>Turkish:        ol- (it is, it will be, it happens)
>Mongol:         bol- (it is, it will be, possible)
>
>Sumerian:       gur4 483,23 (to run, to flee)
>Finnish:        kiire (rushing, hurrying)
Estonian:	kiire (fast, hurry)
>Hungarian:      gyors (quick)
>Turkish:        kuriye (fast movement?)
>Mongol:         qurdun (fast)
>
>Sumerian:       zag 332,43 (flatland, field)
>Finnish:        s„vel (flat)
Estonian:	?
>Hungarian:      sĄks g (plateau)
>Turkish:        sahra- (steppe, land, plateau)
>
>Sumerian:       dug3 396,10/11 (good, healthy, optimal)
>Finnish:        t„ysi (full, perfect)
Estonian:	täis (full)
>Hungarian:      t”k‚letes (complete, perfect)
>Turkish:        tekmil (completion)
>Mongol:         t”gs (")
>
>Sumerian:       dah 169,3/10 (one follows, by someone)
>Finnish:        l„het„ (it follows, it comes together)
Estonian:	?
>Hungarian:      t rs (member, partner)
>Sakha Turk:     doçor (")
>Mongol:         daga- (it follows, it goes together)
>
>Sumerian:       kud 12,19 (city, hamlet)
>Finnish:        kotia (hut)
Estonian:	kodu (home)
>Hungarian:      kunyh˘ (")
>Old Turkish:    qadas^ (relative, relation, troop, brother)
>Mongol:         quda (relation, troop)
>
>Sumerian:       kad4 (to bind)
>Finnish:        kytke„ (it binds up, it weaves)
Estonian:	kütkestama (to bind, facinate)
>Hungarian:      k”tni (to bind)
>Turkish:        kat- (weave)
>Mongol:         qadamar (strenghtened)
>
>Sumerian:       bad3 152^8,7 (deathly ill, sickly)
>Finnish:        potea (become sick)
Estonian:	pődema (to be sick)
>Hungarian:      beteg (sick)
>Old Turkish:    bed- (it weakens)
>Mongol:         betege ("dagantot okoz˘ betegs‚g" - My Hungarian isn't very 
>                         good but I know it has something to do with illness)
>
>Sumerian:       pa 295,11 (summit, peak)
>Finnish:        p„„ (head)
Estonian:	pea (head), pää (head in southern dialects)
>Hungarian:      fej (")
>Turkish:        bas, (")
>Ancient Mongol: pekin (")
>
>Sumerian:       bu 371,25 (to blow)
>Finnish:        puhaltaa (it blows)
Estonian:	puhuda (to blow)
>Hungarian:      fŁj (")
>Turkish:        pfle- (")
>Ancient Mongol: pligˆ (")
>
>Sumerian:       zub 60^x,4 (to flow, rain)
>Finnish:        tippua (it drops)
Estonian:	tilkuma (to drop)
>Hungarian:      csepeg (")
>Uigur Turk:     c^ip-c^ip (onomatopaeia of dripping water - "drip-drip")
>Mongol:         sibeni- (it drops, it flows)
>
>Sumerian:       ki 461,21 (who)
>Finnish:        kuka (")
Estonian:	kes (who)
>Hungarian:      ki (")
>Turkish:        ki (")
>Mongol:         khen (")
>
>Sumerian:       kur2 60,34 (circle)
>Finnish:        keri (")
Estonian:	keha (body, circle in dialect)
>Hungarian:      k”r (")
>Turkish:        kresel (spherical)
>Mongol:         krd (circle)
>
>Sumerian:       kas^ 211a,2 (urine)
>Finnish:        kusi (")
Estonian:	kusi (urine)
>Hungarian:      hŁgy (")
>Turkish:        huysuzluk (bile)
>Old Turkish:    qas^an- (be urinating)
>
>Sumerian:       kud 536,4 (to throw, to place, to allow)
>Finnish:        kadota (it loses)
Estonian:	kaduma (")
>Hungarian:      hagy (it allows)
>Turkish:        koy- (")
>Mongol:         qoj^im (afterwards, later)
>
>Sumerian:       s^ita 233,15/442,2 (to bind)
>Finnish:        sitoa (it binds, it weaves, it strenghtens)
Estonian:	siduma (to bind)
>Hungarian:      csatol (it weaves - a net)
>Turkish:        ciltlemek (to bind)
>Kalmuk Mongol:  s^itm (fencing)
>
>Sumerian:       has^ 12,78 (be bending)
>Finnish:        kallistaa (it bends)
Estonian:	?
>Hungarian:      hajlik (")
>Turkish:        kayma‡ (slant-eyed)
>Mongol:         qaj^iji- (it bends, it curves)
>
>Sumerian:       hir 401,9 (picture)
>Finnish:        kirja (book)
Estonian:	kiri (writing, letter)
>Hungarian:      hĄr (news - ?)
>Turkish:        kertik (notch, gash, score)
>Mongol:         kerc^i (")
>
>Sumerian:       has^ 12,70/73 (to cut, to split)
>Finnish:        halkoa (it cuts)
Estonian:	halg (stick of firewood)
>Hungarian:      hasĄt (")
>Turkish:        kesmek (to cut)
>Mongol:         qasu- (it shortens sg, it cuts sg)
>
>Sumerian:       uh 398,6/17 (to spew, to vomit)
>Finnish:        oksentaa (it vomits)
Estonian:	oksendama (to vomit)
>Hungarian:      ok dik (")
>Turkish:        ”ksrmek (to cough)
>Mongol:         oki- (it vomits)
>
>Sumerian:       sil(a) 12,117 (to split, to cut up)
>Finnish:        s„le (splinter)
Estonian:	?
>Hungarian:      szelet (slice - noun)
>Teleut Turk:    s^IlI (it cuts)
>Mongol:         silu- (")
>
>Sumerian:       sig 592,10/19 (small, little)
>Finnish:        hiukan (a little bit)
>Hungarian:      csek‚ly (insignificant)
>Turkish:        -‡ak (diminutive suffix)
>Mongol:         c^”gen (a few, not much)
>
>Sumerian:       sag2 295,100a (to strike, to hit)
>Finnish:        haava (wound, injury)
Estonian:	haav (wound)
>Hungarian:      seb (")
>Turkish:        ‡arpmak (to strike)
>Mongol:         s^abda- (it wounds sg/sb,)
>
>Sumerian:       hus 565,58 (to drive)
>Finnish:        kuski (driver)
>Hungarian:      kocsis (driver)
>                kocsi (coach - The word "coach" is derived from the Hungarian
>                       but the Hungarian word comes from the Sumerian "hus")
>Osmanli Turk:   qos^u (wagon, coach)
>Kalmuk Mongol:  xos^ (")
>Old Japanese:   kachi (a type of vehicle for nobles)
>
>Sumerian:       s^ag 384,118/9 (to sigh, a sigh)
>Lappish:        s^uokket (a sigh)
>Hungarian:      s˘hajtozik (it sighs)
>Teleut Turk:    s“zI- (")
>Mongol:         sugsi- (")
>
>Sumerian:       s^ag 384,2 (word)
>Finnish:        s„vel (sound, song)
>Hungarian:      sz˘ (word)
>Turkish:        s”v (")
>Mongol:         jabsi- (it talks a lot)
>
>Sumerian:       s^e 367,58d (to eat)
>Finnish:        sy”d„ (it eats)
Estonian:	sööma (to eat)
>Hungarian:      eszik (")
>Turkish:        yemek (to eat)
>Mongol:         j^eme (wolf food)
>
>Sumerian:       s^ug 367,11/2 (big, be big, much)
>Finnish:        luku (lots)
>Hungarian:      sok (")
>Turkish:        ‡ok (")
>Mongol:         ‡uçla- (it enlarges sg, it increases sg)
>
>Sumerian:       s^eg8 551,4 (frost, ice, cold)
>Finnish:        j„„ (ice)
Estonian:	jää (ice)
>Hungarian:      j‚g (")
>Turkish:        sog^ut (cold)
>Mongol:         tsang (frost)
>
>Sumerian:       us^ 4 536,26 (mind, intellect)
>Finnish:        huja (mind)
>Hungarian:      ‚sz (")
>Turkish:        us (intelligence)
>Mongol:         ojun (")
>
>Sumerian:       as^ 2 339,8 (to long for, to want)
>Finnish:        isota (want)
>Hungarian:      ‚hes (hungry)
>Turkish:        istemek (to want, to desire)
>
>Sumerian:       gis^ 296,16 (hand)
>Finnish:        k„si (")
Estonian:	käsi (hand)
>Hungarian:      k‚z (")
>Turkish:        kuuvet (strength, power)
>Mongol:         gesign (member, branch)
>
>Sumerian:       zal 231,16 (also: sal, s^al) (to see) 
>Finnish:        silm„ (eye)
Estonian:	silm (eye)
>Hungarian:      szem (")
>Mongol:         silibki- (it looks at sg)
>
>Sumerian:       zal(ag) 393,5 (be lighted, star, to shine)
>Finnish:        ts'ilkett„ (it shines, it lights up sg)
>(dialect)
>Hungarian:      csillag (star)
>Kyrgyz Turk:    s^olpan (Morning Star, Venus)
>Mongol:         j^ilçir- (it shines)
>
>Sumerian:       zir 84,108 (suffering, hurt)
>Finnish:        s„rke„ (be in pain)
>Hungarian:      sĄr (grave; be crying)
>Turkish:        sIzI (ache, pain)
>Khalkha Mongol: s^arx (wound)
>
>Sumerian:       izi 172,11/17/13 (fire, oven, ash, to flame up)
>Komi (Finnic):  ezj- (it burns)
>Hungarian:      izzad (it sweats)
>Kyrgyz Turk:    issyk (warm - there is a lake called the Issyk-Kul - "warm
>                       lake" in Kyrgyzstan)
>Mongol:         isu (ash)
>
>Sumerian:       izi 172.159 (sour)
>Finnish:        etikka (")
Estonian:	äädikas (")
>Hungarian:      ecet (")
>Turkish:        eks,i (")
>Mongol:         es- (it becomes sour)
>
>Sumerian:       zig 84,45 (to raise oneself, to get oneself up)
>Finnish:        l„hte„ (it goes away, it starts off, it escapes)
Estonian:	läheb ((he) goes)
>Hungarian:      sz”kik (it escapes)
>Turkish:        ‡Ikmak (to go out, to move out, to graduate)
>Mongol:         segelj^e (go in a jumping manner)
>
>Sumerian:       ri 86,41,74 (to fly)
>Finnish:        r„pytt„„ (it flies)
>Hungarian:      repl- (")
>Kyrgyz Turk:    erb„ng (unsupportable, cannot stand up)
>Mongol:         erbeji- (it flies)
>
>Sumerian:       sir3 152,3 (also: sur, s^ar) (to sing, song, to compose music)
>Finnish:        sirist„„ (it chirps)
>Hungarian:      csiripel (")
>Turkish:        s,arkI (song)
>Mongol:         j^irgi (sing a song, chirp)
>
>Sumerian:       er 50,7 (also: ir, ur) (man, manly)
>Finnish:        yrk” (husband)
>Hungarian:      Łr (sir, Mr.)
>Turkish:        er (man, male)
>Mongol:         ere (husband)
>
>Sumerian:       bar 74,100 (to frighten oneself, to scare)
>Finnish:        pel„t„ (it fears)
>Hungarian:      f‚l (")
>Turkish:        perva (")
>Ancient Mongol: prk (")
>
>Sumerian:       ur2 203,7 (underground, ground)
>Finnish:        ala- (lower part)
Estonian:	alam- (")
>Hungarian:      alatt (under)
>Turkish:        alt (bottom)
>Mongol:         ala (genitals)
>
>Sumerian:       ma 342,98b/10 (also: ma-da) (land, earth, homeland)
>Finnish:        maa (land, country)
Estonian:	maa (")
>Hungarian:      megye (county, administrative district)
>Uigur Turk:     budun (folk, people)
>Mongol:         aymag (county, administrative district)
>
>Maybe the name MAGYAR ("Hungarian" in the Hungarian language) came from MA or
>MA-DA...
>
>Sumerian:       ma 233,2 (to go)
>Finnish:        menn„ (it goes)
Estonian:	minna (to go)
>Hungarian:      megy (")
>Old Turkish:    man- (")
>
>Sumerian:       ma3 233,3a (I)
>Finnish:        min„ (I)
>Hungarian:      -m (verbal suffix for 1st person ex. esz-ik = it eats, esz-
>                em = I eat)
>Turkish:        ben (I)
>Mongol:         minu (mine)
>
>Sumerian:       eme 237,2 (also: ama) (mother)
>Finnish:        em„ (mother, woman, madam, she-)
>Hungarian:      anya (mother), emlo" (breast)
>Turkish:        ana (mother) emcik (nipple) emmek (to suck)
>Mongol:         eme (mother)
>
>Sumerian:       gam 362,6 (it bends over)
>Finnish:        kumar- (it bends)
Estonian:	kumer (convex)
>Hungarian:      kamp˘ (hook)
>Turkish:        kemer (arch, vault)
>Mongol:         qamar (nose - a "bent" facial feature)
>
>Sumerian:       na 97,4 (be named, call)
>Finnish:        nimi (name)
Estonian:	nimi (name)
>Hungarian:      n‚v (")
>Turkish:        nam (")
>Mongol:         ner (")
>
>Finnish:        omen (apple)
Estonian:	őun (apple)
>Hungarian:      alma (")
>Turkish:        elma (")
>Mongol:         alim (")
>
>Sumerian:       du3 230,19 (known, experienced, knowledge)
>Finnish:        tunte- (it knows, it meets)
>Hungarian:      tud- (it knows), tanul- (it studies) 
>Turkish:        tanImak (to know)
>Mongol:         todad- (it enlightens sg, it explains sg)
>
>---------------------------------17164731315494--

:-)
oTT

I am still vaiting somebody's answer whether the new Madonna movie
(Evita) was indeed shot in Budapest, that city substituting for Buenos
Aires.

The other thing I wonder about is if the "English Patient" is a Canadian
or British movie.  It certainly does not "feel" American and with
the exception of Willem Dafoe, I don't recall any known American actor
in it.

Joe

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On Tue, 03 Dec 1996 19:43:02 GMT,  (ing. Jeroen
M.W. van Dijk) wrote:

>Dutch comes from German. So Im still speaking German dialect at home.

This is utter nonsense. Don't make assertions about subjects which you
have no knowledge of. I consider your assertions as a rationalizations
of the fact that you are 'still' speaking a 'German dialect' at home.

Michel Couzijn
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
PhD in Dutch Language and Literature

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I cannot count the number of times I have flown MALEV -- on Tupelovs
mostly.  I have never had any problems beyond the incredibly small
amount of space provided in the overhead lockers on Tupelov planes.  As
most people seem to get on with HUGE hand baggage these days, it does
cause a problem (the lockers are only about 8 inches high, if that).
Also, MALEV does give you the use of the new terminal.  I have to agree
with previous postings regarding the food.  It is always the same
unimaginative mixture of slices of salami, hard bread rolls, strange
salad and quails eggs or slices of chicken eggs.  The strangest thing of
all, though, is the Hungarian habit of clapping loudly upon landing.
This must relate to earlier times, when landing was a true feat.
However, there seems to be no need for it now.  I have had great flights
in and out of Budapest and no problems on landing.  In fact, the worst
flight I had in Hungary was on Air France!
-- 
Karen Dunn Skinner

In article > Karen Dunn Skinner,
 writes:
> I have never had any problems beyond the incredibly small
>amount of space provided in the overhead lockers on Tupelov planes.

They have gone.  I only flied once with the Tu-154 and it was a char-
ter flight. On Budapest Zurich Budapest route, always a Boeing-xyz
flies.

> I have to agree
>with previous postings regarding the food.  It is always the same
>unimaginative mixture of slices of salami, hard bread rolls, strange
>salad and quails eggs or slices of chicken eggs. 

Yes, and very little. I could eat the double. Somebody criticized the
wines earlier. I had to switch to wines because there are no anymore czech
or hungarian beer, just German pisses. The red wine is drinkable, in spite
of the fact that it comes from Kiskoros or Kecskemet which is not a
quality-wine  region. Au contraire.

>The strangest thing of
>all, though, is the Hungarian habit of clapping loudly upon landing.
>This must relate to earlier times, when landing was a true feat.

It must be a stupid Swiss or German habit 'cose they always do
it. In our case it is somewhat understandable, because I go with
the evening flight which has a direct connection to Middle East so
we are full of ortodox Jews (they used to pray just before the flight
on the airport, I always keep my finger crossed to them not to punch
their head to the wall), and terrorism comes into one's mind and happy
that lived through the flight without highjacking or a bombing. ;-)

Tamas