Karl,

I find your posting VERY disturbing and full of small minded prejudice.
Have you ever read a book on Jewish history and read about all the hate
crimes committed against them by so called Catholics and Christians?  Are
you aware of what happened to the Jews during the Spanish Inquisition for
example and how Jews were forced either to convert to Catholism or be
crucified?. It seems to me that you are typical small minded southern,How
do you like to be stereo typed? You cannot tolerate people different from
you.

  I am a Jew from NY who now lives in California.  I was told how
obnoxious I was my entire life. New York Jews are just very real and not
phoney.  The reason the Goyim world or gentile world hates the Jews, is
obvious.  THEY ARE JEALOUS.  Jews as a people have had tremendous success
in making money and are very gifted in music and art.  Jews have Chutzpah,
or boldness.  God has blessed the Jews whether they believe in Him or not,
they are His chosen people and He loves them. 

You say Jews are cursed by God. Where did you make that one up, and you
view it through your own ignorance and stupidity. I will answer some of
your letter from a Spiritual point of reference.  Do you not know that the
 New Testament which was written by the Hebrews.. As a Jew I read the
Bible and thought I could educate you a little with the truth.  First of
all Jesus was a Jew, Paul was a Rabbi, and a former Pharisee, and God
still loves the Jews

 Paul wrote in Romans 3:1 "Then what advantage has the Jew?  Or what is
the benefit of circumcision?  2.  Great in every respect.  First of all,
that they were entrusted with the oracles of God"  What then?  If some did
not believe their unbelief will not nullify the faithfulness of God, will
it? 4.  May it never be!  Rather let God be found true, thogh every man be
found a liar:  Yes, Let God be found true  .  Read chapeter 10, 11 and you
will read how GOD loves the Jews.  You call yourself a Christian? Are you
really? A true Christian loves the Jews, the Messiah, and are greatful for
the Jewish Bible.  

 The covenant God made to Abraham, Issac and Jacob are eternal.Abrahamic
Covenant Genesis 12:1-3  22:15-18 To Abraham,  "By Myself I have sworn,
declares the Lord, because you hve done this thing, and have not withheld
your son, your only son, indeed I will greatly bless you and will greatly
multiply your seed as the stars of the heavens, and as the sand which is
on the seashore; and your seed shall possess the gate of their enemies, 
And in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed because you
have obeyed my voice".  And this is what has happened. 

You sound like he KKK, and white supremacy.  By the way I am forwarding
your letter to AOL, and The Anti-Deformation League of Bnai Brith. 

Andrea
 writing under a guest 

In article >,
 > wrote:
| Kramar Laszlonak:
| 
| Uram, ha nem tud magyarul irni, csak zagyvasagot, akkor ne irjon,
| mert magyarul - olvashatatlan.
| 
| A felhivast otthoni Asszonytarsaim irtak, akik biztos jobban
| erzik, latjak es tudjak az okokat.  Csak dicseretre meltoak!
| Talan azert nem faj a magyar nep balsorsa egyeseknek, mint Kramar
| Laszlonak, mert nem is tartoznak a magyarsaghoz. Igy nagy szerencse
| lehet, hogy nem otthon rontjak a levegot, tarsaikkal
egyutt!

Hat on?
| 
| Aki az en irasomat nem erti meg, az ne valaszoljon, mert nem
| vagyok ra kivancsi!
| 
| Langi A. Maria
| 

Nezze kedves Langi Maria - es ugyanezt uzentem Toth Juditnak
is aki felkert ne irjak neki mert visszavonul a usenetrol.
Ha nyilvanos hirdetest tesz akkor szamithat  ra hogy
nyilvanos valaszt is fog kapni. Ha ezt az on gyomra nem
kepes megemeszzteni akkor ne vallaljon szereplest a Usenet
nyilvanossaga elott. Ha valaki arra ker hogy ot ne
zavarjak azt illik betartani egeszen addig amig az illeto
nem valal "kozszerepet".  Ha kilep a nyilvanossag ele akkor
ezt azzal a tudattal teszi hogy nyilvanos reakciokat for
kapni akakr tetszik akar nem. (Akar kivancsi ra akar nem.)
egegyszer Toth Juditra detto
ugyanez vonatkozik.

> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> The quoted email above constitutes civil and criminal harassment,
> among other things, and is being returned to you with the legal
> notice below.
>
> This demands that you cease and desist from harassing me in any way.
>
> Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd)
> CEC Services, LLC, 2080 Kipling St, Lakewood, CO  80215-1502
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Reposted without comment:

To:        /alt/usenet/kooks
From:        (M. Legare, etc.)
Subject:   KotM WINNER Jan 1996
MessageID: 
Date:      Th 01.02.96, 17:04  (received: 02.02.96)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the 1st Anniversary Edition of the KotM awards! Only one award to
dish out this time around, but it's a doozy

COLIN JAMES III )

Colin James III, anti-stukach, creator of BSAM, one-man harrasment squad...
What can you say about him, this anti-stukach (stukach being Russian for
"informer") claimed that he had created the BSAM sort alogorithm, got
challenged on it, demonstrated a tenuous (at best) grasp of the basic
concepts and perfromance of BSAM, then launched into a vigourous campaign
to impign all of his "enemies" (which, to the best of my knowledge meant
anyone who mentions his name) by emailing, faxing, calling and otherwise
alerting his "enemies" employers, ISPs, and (in the case of government
employees) the Inspector General of the United States of America to
naughty behavior (reading rec.nude, corssposting to more than three newsgroups)
in the apparent hopes of costing someone his or her job, account, or
SOMETHING... I really have no idea what.

Your humble On-Line Support Guy has (according to sources) received a
few moments of Colin's attention, via email to his sysadmin as well.

FYI, cec-services.com appears to be a PC with Windows 95 and the Internet
Access Pack installed, which means that Colin is his own sysadmin.  This would
explain why email sent to Colin's Sysadmin is immediately known by Colin.

Colin hsa (as of last report) set up an autoresponder to tell anyone who
sends him email that "Colin is no longer accepting email to this account".
However, he/his sysadmin/SOMEONE keeps quoting the so-called "ignored"
email messages to the senders' sysadmin, boss, the IG etc.

Again, Colin is also the owner and operator of the "anti-silisas and anti-
stukachi" web page (on AOL no less).  "Stukachi", once again, means
"Informer".  The irony is not lost on your On-Line Support Guy.

Colin won with an AMAZING number of votes (182!), making him the
Most-Voted-For KotM nominee in the history of the award (at least under my
term of office - Jan 1995 - Jan 1996).

Other nominees:

Bill Palmer - 3
Don MacDonald / "Kool Dan" MacDonald - 1
YES - 27 (due to the fact that Colins nominator said to vote YES...)
James Ogle - 13
Vladimir Fomin - 4

And, in a short moment or two (ok, a few hours) the KotM web pages
will be graced with Colin in all his glory.

Again, nominations to alt.usenet.kooks.  Votes to 

Matthew Legare
On-Line Support Guy

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## CrossPoint v3.02 ##

In article >, Gilvo > wrote:
>  Anyone interested in finding their relatives in Slovakia and or Hungary,
>please write me private E-mail for instructions and form.

                    AND PRICE LIST?

>
> Thank you,
>
>  Gil Geras
>
>  

In article > (John Wa
lker) writes:

> In >
>  (Krzysztof Wroblewski) writes: 

> >I do not think that you are taking over the world, but could you stop 
> >crossposting this stuff to the groups that are not related to this
> topic?
> 
> Apparently the question here is not whether or not Jews are attempting
> to take over the world, the question is, through all this cross-posting
> and controversy, are they trying to take over scp.  Did I get that
> right, KW?    :-)

Who started the crospposting?  Who is now blaming the Jews for it?  I
can draw multiple parallels starting from the mid-20th century in the
Middle East, back to the Weimar Republic and the Third Reich, back to
Czarist Russia, and all the way back to the end of the 1st century.
Yes, you and many other keep getting it right.  :-)

					-- Jake --

PS.  I was tempted to add the Kielce pogrom to the above list, but I
didn't.
--
************************************************************
Jacob D. Goldstein                                         
                    TASC
Voice: (617)942-2000             55 Walkers Brook Drive
  Fax: (617)942-9507             Reading, MA 01867

Any volunteer bomber pilot out there with a sizable core dumps?

cheers

A kovetkezo levelre figyeltem fel:

=+=+=
From: 
Subject: RE: Teruletrendezest! - valasz Bodi Antalnak
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 01:38:13

Kedves Toni,

Ne sertodj meg azon hogy Toth Judith 'teljes agymosott  es 
sotetsegben botorkalo'-nak titulalt. Itt az igazi  Silicon 
Valley-ben dolgozo magyar mernokok tobbsege teljesen egyetert 
Veled.

Jo ha tudod hogy a 'magyar erdekekert harcolo  Siliconvalley
nemzeti erzesu harcosai' nem Silicon Valley-bol hanem Canadabol 
(valahonnan Montreal kornyekerol) vivjak hosi csatajukat...

-gyuri
Palo Alto 
(az igazi Silicon Valley-bol)
 


=+=+=

amire szeretnek reagalni:

En azert mast  uzennek B. Antalnak. Nagyon javasolnam,  gondolkozzon el T. 
Judith levelen,
mert szerintem az telitalalat volt. Nem kell nagyon olvasottnak lenni hogy az 
ember lassa: M.o.-
on valosagos ideologiai haboru folyik az alliberalis kozmopolita vilagnezetu es
 
nemzeti erzesu
ertelmisegiek kozott.  Az elobbiek viszonylag nagy tabora foleg az agymosas 
aldozata, amit egy
szuk reteg sajat erdekebe meglovagol es kozben "gurul a rohogestol" is. 
Szerencsere nem
remenytelen a helyzet. Abban is remenykedem, hogy az "igazi Silicon Valley"-ben
 
is  sokan
megertik ezt.  
Kozeledik az Olimpiasz. Ezzel kapcsolatban kivancsi lennek, kinek fognak 
drukkolni a magyar
kozmopolitak? Del-Amerikai orszagoknak, ahol szepek a nok?  Vagy ahol kevesbe 
fuszeres a
koszt? Vagy ebbol  ok mar kinottek - senkinek? 
f.i.

Kedves Olvaso,

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     a mult ev vegen. A talalmany a mar meglevo GPS (Global Positioning
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     ellatott kartya. A bar-code tartalmazza egy adott hely(gyors etterem,
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     foldrajzi koordinatait. A kartya GPS keszulekbe helyezve megmutatja a    
     vezetonek milyen messze van a celponttol, merre kell menni, jelzi ha mar 
     50 meteren belul van es meg sok mas informaciot is szolgaltat.
     A nagy autogyartokat egyre jobban erdekli a GPS rendszer es Szabo Ur
     talalmanyaval frappans megoldast fognak talalni. A turizmus szinten
     oriasi lehetosegeket tartogat e talalmany szamara.a Nemzetkozi
     Szabadalmi Bizottsag velemenye szerint az otlet 350 Millio dollar        
     ertekkel bir. Egy ilyen nagy hordereju szabadalomnal sok turelemre,      
     targyalasra es penzre van szukseg. Olyan szemelyeket es cegeket keresunk 
     akik reszt vennenek e nagyszeru dolog gyors piacra viteleben es az nem   
     kallodna sokaig mint annak idelyen pl. a Rubik kocka.
     Bovebb informacioert a kovetkezo szamok hivhatok:

     Szabo mernok ur Budapest, Tel: 284-7777
                               Fax: 284-7799

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                               Fax:(416)425-7951

     E-mail:                  


                     Erdeklodeset elore is koszonjuk.

(John Walker) wrote:
>John Walker observes:
>---------------------
>This business about antagonism towards the Jews troubles me in that it
>heartlessly fails to recognize antagonism against any other group.  The
>joke below places itself just after the time that Stalin and his Soviet
>murders ruthlessly killed twelve-million Ukrainians.  Is there  Jewish
>heirarchy of antagonism for us to pay obeisance to?  Why do we dwell on
>antagonism towards Jews to the ignorance of antagonism towards any
>other group?  Are only Jews human and the rest the cattle of universal
>non-concern?
>----------------------
>- John Walker

I've snipped the quotes.

I like your whiskey, but find much of what you say lacking in understanding.

If Jews harp on the Holocaust, it is because it is our holocaust.  If some 
of us choose to ignore the Ukrainians killed by Stalin (I don't, but since 
it insn't part of my ethnic history, don't talk abpout it much) it is 
because of a long history of Ukrainian anitsemitism, comperable to the 
history of Polish antisemitism that some of us tried to explain to you.

If you look at the history of the Black civil rights marches, I think that 
you will find that Jews were involved, in proportion to their numbers, far 
more that other non-Black ethic or religious groups.  If you look at the 
opposition to US involvement in Nicaragua, Viet Nam, etc., I think that you 
will find Jews out of proportion among those who have opposed.  We oppose 
these acts and continue to do so because they run counter to the message of 
our prophets.

Finally, we react, as do others, to the headlines.  We have reacted to a 
great extent to the attrocities in Bosnia.  These were well covered.  I 
personally, because of the semester I spent lecturing there, react strongly 
to repression in China.  But a good deal of the horror in the world occurs 
out of the glare of publicity and gets overlooked, not only by us, but by all 
segments of society.

Martin Fox

Despite statements by Yeltsin to the contrary, the Chechen War of 
Independence rages on and news reports today declared that 45 Russian
State Terrorists have been killed or are missing at the hands of the 
Chechen Freedom Fighters.  A Sukhoi jet bomber was also shot down.  

The reports, McNeil Lehrer on TV and other radio sources, said that 
62% of the Russian people have had enough of state terrorism against
the Chechen people and want Yeltsin to stop the war for good.  500,000
Chechens have been forced to flee their homes and many villages have
been totally flattened by the state terrorists in addition to their 
capital Grozny.  It is time for Russia to give the brave Chechen 
people what all nations want, the right to life, liberty and the 
pursuit of happiness.  Russia must come to terms with the fact that
she must let the remaining nations, who are still under her domination,
go free if she is to ever become a civilized and democratic society.

Regards, Dan K.

In article >, 
(Angelos Karageorgiou) wrote:

> In article >,
> SMF User  > wrote:
> >What is the moral question relevant to contemporary
> >Jewish issues?  
> 
> [ paranoia deleted ] 

> >May we restore freedom of speech in this country so that some of 
> >these issues can be discussed publicly in a civil manner.
> >
> 
> bubba, freedom os speech does not include racist rants and raves

Nobody wants to listen to hateful speech but it is better said, cut to
ribbons logically, and disposed of rationally than to have it fester,
develop an underground transmission network, and grow with little if any
contact with rational critics. Irrationality in the form of anti-semitism
loves a lack of discussion since discussion often exposes the ugly facts
and inconsistencies of anti-semitism.

Freedom of speech does include racist speech, anti-semitic speech, nazi
speech, and communist speech. This is why our founding fathers spoke of
eternal vigilance being the price of freedom. It's as true in the rest
of the world as it is in the US.

DB

-- 
Romanian Political Pages now are available
http://haven.ios.com/~dbrutus

Valtozo Taj [1935]	by  Radnoti Miklos (1909-1944)

Tocsaba lep a sze’l,
futtyent es tovafut,
hirtelen megfordul
s becsapja a kaput.

A tocsa laposan
pislant s a lusta fa’k
madaras sza’jukat
hirtelen kinyitjak.

Osszevissza zaj lesz,
meg a lomb is mormog,
epulnek a porban
porbol kicsi tornyok.

Megall az uton a 
mokusbarna barat
es folotte barnan
egy mokus pattan at.

Aztan figyelmesen 
mi mozdult: megmered,
a ta’j nagy kalapkent
hordozza az eget.

Mire ujra mozdul,
csaknem minden nyugodt,
bokorba bu’tt a szel
s aludni keszul ott.

Nevetni ke’sz a re’t,
mosolygos es kover,
gyonge’n ring ahonnan
asszonyom jodoge’l.

Meglat, szalad fele’m
a fu kozt es a nap
sze’tfuto hajaba
arany csikot harap.

Korben egyre tisztul 
es folyton csondesul,
az elkergetett fe’ny
mindenre visszaul

es mi nagy kalapke’nt
hordozta az eget:
fedetlen a’ll a ta’j
s felho:vel integet.


me

 (Donata Guerra) writes:
[...]
>  Another important think in common -- the cuisine.
>I know that stuffed cabbage is found in Poland and Hungary among many 
>other countries in that region.  I will say that the best I've had 
>are at the Cafe Budapest in Boston!

Lucky you, Donushka!  I haven't eaten Hungarian cuisine for
ages.  Another typically Hungarian dish that is quite popular in
Poland is 'gulasz', although in Hungarian version it is usually
much more spicy.  I wonder if 'bigos', our national pride, is 
also known in Hungary (the name sounds Hungarian:)? 

  This remided me about my student trips accross Hungary almost 
20 years ago.  My memories are very tasty.  I recall delicious 
pork stakes, big and two at a time.  And veeery hot fish soup 
in Halasbasta in Budapest.  And lots of good wine, of course. 
  What more?  Music bands in almost every 'csarda' playing 
usually very touching 'magyar nap zene'...  Are they still
there?  

Cheers,
___
Grzegorz Ciach, 
PO Box 3053, Iowa City, IA 52244; tel:(319)337-4961

Danke schoen Herr Semmelrock.

Andrew Mathis

Stolmar G. Ilona szerint

>Nem sok ertelme van idomet ilyen kerdesek megvalaszolasaval tolteni, de:

	Akkor miert tolt ilyen sok idot az en meglehetosen rovid valaszomon?
Irasa ez alkalommal 200 valahany sor.

>1. Vajon miert lett eppen 1920-ban CSAK 7,5 millio a magyar lakosok szama?
>No? Sajnalatos, hogy ezt egy "tortenesztol" kell megkerdezni es neki kellene
>elmagyarazni. Pedig az idezett mondtaban szerepelt a Trianon "kifejezes" is!

	Ez egy nevetseges hozzaszolas. Mindenki tudja, hogy 1920-ban miert
volt csak 7.5 millio a trianoni Magyarorszag lakossaga, es ebben benne
volt a 700 ezer valahany nemet es  kb. 500 ezer zsido.  Jobban erezne
magat Stolmar G. Ilona, ha  azt irtam volna, hogy 1920-ban--a trianoni
bekeszerzodes ertelmeben--ez es ez tortent?

>2. Miert is kell nekunk "mai Magyarorszagrol" beszelnunk? Es nem az
>EZEREVES-rol!

	Azert mivel 1920-ban csak a mai Magyarorszagrol beszelhetunk. Mint ma
is.

>3. A haboruk utani "termeszetes szaporulat" megugrasarol nalamnal sokkal
>okosabb es ezen a szakteruleten mukodo szakertok konyvtarakat megtolto
>mennisegu tanulmanyokat irtak, kozuluk a legliberalisabbak is tenykent
>allapitva meg, hogy ez az emberiseg fennallasa ota meglevo jelenseg. (Ugyanez
>vonatkozik egy-egy hatalmas tomegeket kipusztito jarvany utani idoszakra is.)

	Erdekes modon, a termeszetes szaporodas joval magasabb volt Trianon
elott mint utan. A mai Magyarorszag teruleten 1900-ben: 90,656;
1910-ben: 96,582; mig 1920-=ban 79,71 es 1930:ban (es ez a legmagasabb
szam) 85,443. Szoval lehet, hogy a szakertoknek nincs mindig igazuk.

>Remelem, Balogh Eva van annyira kepzett, hogy nem kell a konyvtaramban
>keresgelni nevek es idezetek utan...

	Nehez eldonteni. Mivel tortenelembol van Ph.D.-m, megpedig fo
erdeklodesi korom 20-ik szazadi magyar tortenelem volt, azt hiszem,
hogy meglehetosen kepzett vagyok.

> Bizonyara ezert nem tudja, hogy ha a 80-as evekben beallt a
>"negativ szaporodas", magyarul evente egy-egy, ma mar nem is kis, hanem jo
>kozepes VAROSNYI ember tunik el Hazank terkeperol, akkor ennek a folyamatnak
>- sajnos! - evtizedekkel ELOBB kellett megindulnia, s ezt megelozoen a
>lakossag eloregedesi folyamatanak kellett bekovetkeznie.

	Kepzelje, kedves Ilona, tudom, hogy a 80-as evekben beallt a negativ
szaporodas, es hogy evente egy-egy varosnyi ember tunik el. Kepzelje,
tudom. De en azt is tudom, hogy a magyar nep termekenysege nem
alacsonyabb, sot magasabb mint a legtobb europai orszage. Ha erdeklik
az adatok, megadhatom. Magyarorszagon a szaporodas magasabb mint
Nemetorszagban, Hollandiaban, Kanadaban, Svajcban, es igy tovabb es
igy tovabb. (Ha erdekli megadhatom a termekenysegi adatokat 1993-bol.)
Szoval a helyzet az, hogy nem a magyar kormanyok felelosek ezert. Egy
europai fenomenonrol van szo, ahol Magyarorszag jobban all, mint tobb
masik orszag.


> nem tudom,
>tudja-e, hogy Hazank eppen ez evben 1100 eves? -, 

	Tudja kedves Ilona buta ironiaval csak sajatmagat teszi nevetsegesse.

>a masik pedig megalakulasa
>(az oslakossag lemeszarlasa) ota alkotmanya szerint is BEFOGADASRA letrejott
>hely. (Ha nem igy lenne, nem kellett volna az indianokat kiirtani, hogy
>helyet csinaljanak az idejovoknek.)

	Nahat, ez igen erdekes. Ki olte meg a magyar oslakossagot, csak azert,
hogy helyet csinaljanak a betolakodnak? Tudja, hogy 12-13-ik szazadi
kulfoldi utazok szerint hazankban talan 4-5 ember elt km2-kent
akkoriban? Meg a Dunantul is mindossze oriasi erdoseg volt, ahol
napokon keresztul egy lelekkel sem talalkozott az ember, annak
ellenere, hogy Szent Istvantol kezdve minden kiralyunk hozott be
kulfoldieket. Ami pedig az amerikai indianokat illeti, nem azert oltek
meg oket, hogy helyet adjanak a bevandorloknak, hiszen volt itt hely,
hanem azert, mert--es ezen nem lehet csodalkozni--az indianok nem
voltak elragadtatva a bevandorloktol es termeszetesen harcoltak
ellenuk.

>8. Mi mar Szent Istvan ota ugyancsak "liberalisan" engedtuk be a delszlavokat
>- a szerbeket pl. csak "ideiglenesen, vendegsegbe" - es megint szomoru
>vagyok, hogy egy "tortenesznek" kell elmagyarazni: Trianon lett a
>kovetkezmenye ennek az elismeresre melto,vendegszereto magatartasunknak

	Kar, hogy azt hiszi, hogy nekem ilyesmit magyarazni kell. Higyje el,
hogy jobban ismerem a magyar tortenelmet mint az atlagember. Nem kell
magyarazni; ellenben a helyzet ma egeszen mas. Akkoriban, marmint a 17
szazad vegen, de meg elotte is, oriasi egy tomegben valo
letelepedesekrol volt szo, megpedig  a hatarvideken. A  17-ik szazad
vegi szerb bevandorlas peldaul kb. 200 ezer egy tombbe valo
betelepiteset jelentette. Megpedig mindenfele kivaltsagokkal
egyetemben. Nem is beszelve olyan dolgokrol, hogy mobilitas, amirol
akkoriban alig beszelhettunk. A mai helyzet teljesen mas, egyaltalan
nem hasonlithato ossze a 18-ik szazad elejevel. Remelem, hogy ezt meg
On is belatja.

>(Ebben az esetben a romanok sem dakok lennenek? Es ebben az esetben fogalmam
>sincs, mi lenne a Dob, Dohany, Sip es arrafele levo pesti utcakkal es Europa
>legregibb es legnagyobb zsinagogajaval, de foleg az arra lakokkal es oda
>jarokkal...?)

	Fogalmam sincs.

>Balogh Eva, aki allitolag 56-ban erkezett szuleivel, NEM TUDJA, kik ezek a
>kulfoldre uldozott emberek! No comment.

	Nem allitolag, hanem valosagban 1956-ban hagytam el Magyarorszagot, de
nem szuleimmel, hanem egyedul. Politikai menekult voltam--a szo valodi
ertelmeben. En a borton elol menekultem es nem valami gazdasagi
megfontolasbol!

>Senki sem beszelt es beszel a ma eljottekrol. (Tudja, a statisztika es a
>matematika!  Utobbiak gyermekei, itt szuletven, majd csak 20-30 ev mulva
>fognak hianyozni otthon!).

	Nahat! Micsoda remek matematika ez! Ne mondja, csak 20-30 ev mulva
hianyoznak. En azt hiszem, hogy nem csak gyerekeik, hanem sajat maguk
is hianyoztak. 1956-ban 200 ezer  hianyzott, megpedig azonnal.

>hogy sem a 3 millio koldus orszagarol nem ertesult, se Jozsef Attila
>munkassagarol (Hazam) "...s kitantorgott Amerikaba / masfel millio
>emberunk..."

	Tudja mit kedves Stolmar G. Ilona, jobb lenne Onnek a kaptafajanal
maradni--ugyan nem tudom pontosan, hogy mi a kaptafaja. Az biztos,
hogy nem tortenelem. Ugyanis Jozsef Attila a vilag vegeig is
emlegetheti a harom millio emberunket, akik kitantorogtak Amerikaba,
de higyje, hogy ez nem igaz. A harom millio egy fiktiv szam--ajanlom,
hogy olvasson egy-ket konyvet errol. Nem beszelve errol, hogy a
Magyarorszagrol jovok nagy szazaleka nem magyar volt, hanem szlovak.

>Nagyon nem szeretnem sem eloirni, sem megmagyarazni, ki a magyar, mi a magyar
>- ezt nagyon erthetoen megtette nemcsak Szabo Dezso, de Nemeth Laszlo es meg
>sok mas nagy magyar is.

	Kerem, masolja le ide, hogy mit mondott Szabo Dezso es Nemeth Laszlo.
Erdekes lenne. Ugyanakkor szeretnem megjegyezni, hogy nem mindenkinek
kotelezo elajulni Szabo Dezso es Nemeth Laszo nevenek hallatara.

>Igen, a nevem, ami a ferjem neve - mondhatnam: mert nekem van ilyenem -,
>bizony, nem magyar.

	Nahat, gratulalok!

> Sot, elso ferjem neve sem volt magyar!

	Irtozatosan sajnalatos!

>Mindketto osei
>szazadokkal elobb nemetkent, vagy "svabkent" vandoroltak be abba az utolso,
>fasiszta, szelsoseges, idegengyulolo es kirekeszto Magyarorszagba.

	Szazadokkal ezelott egy fasiszta, szelsoseges Magyarorszagba. Nahat!

>Csakhogy itt a bokkeno:
>NEM A NEV hatarozza meg azt, ki a magyar.

	Gondolom egy jo csomo nacionalista frocsoges, nemzetsorvasztokrol valo
uvoltozes jo magyarra tehet akarkit! Sajnos, nem az en stilusom. Sot,
valahogy nem hiszem, hogy Stolmar G. Ilonak jobb magyarok mint peldaul
en. Milyen alapon hatarozza el Stolmar G. Ilona, hogy ki magyar es ki
nem! En peldaul azt mondhatnam, hogy ilyen nacionalista irasok
"nemzetellenesek," rossz hirt terjesztenek rolunk a vilagban, es ezert
Stolmar G. Ilona nem jo hazafi!

>Engedje meg nekem, hogy azert aggodjam, ami ENGEM aggaszt! 

	Kerem, aggodjon, aggodjon!

>En meg megengedem,
>sot szivbol kivanom  Onnek, hogy azokkal keveredjen, akikkel akar! Akar a
>felsoroltak mindegyikevel is, egyszerre.  A keveredes ugyanis nem a magyarsag
>pusztulasat allitja meg, csak az ossznepesseg letszamat tartja esetleg
>"szinten",

	Latja, megint belegabalyodik abba a megoldhatatlan problemaba hogy ki
is magyar! A baj Onnel az, hogy on genetikus alapon gondolkodik,
hiszen fenti utolso mondata arra utal, hogy az ossznepesseg letszama
nem jelent egyet a magyarsag letszamaval.  Es mi a helyzet ezeknek a
gyerekeikkel?

	Az On gondolkodasa olyan messze van tolem mint Mako Jeruzsalemtol.
Latom, hogy On is hasonloan gondolkodik. Jo, maradjunk ebben!

	Balogh Eva

In article >,  (Lajos Laki) wrote:
>
>
>          Kedves Olvaso,
>
>     Szabo Laszlo villamos mernok Ur nagyszeru talalmanyt szabadalmaztatott
>     a mult ev vegen. A talalmany a mar meglevo GPS (Global Positioning
>     System)-re epul. A szabadalom lenyege egy ujfajta "bar-code"-val
>     ellatott kartya. A bar-code tartalmazza egy adott hely(gyors etterem,
>     szalloda, szerviz, szallitasi celpont, turista erdekesseg) vagy barmi 
mas 
>     foldrajzi koordinatait. A kartya GPS keszulekbe helyezve megmutatja a   
 
>     vezetonek milyen messze van a celponttol, merre kell menni, jelzi ha mar 
>     50 meteren belul van es meg sok mas informaciot is szolgaltat.
>     A nagy autogyartokat egyre jobban erdekli a GPS rendszer es Szabo Ur
>     talalmanyaval frappans megoldast fognak talalni. A turizmus szinten
>     oriasi lehetosegeket tartogat e talalmany szamara.A Nemzetkozi
>     Szabadalmi Bizottsag velemenye szerint az otlet 350 Millio dollar       
 
>     ertekkel bir. Egy ilyen nagy hordereju szabadalomnal sok turelemre,     
 
>     targyalasra es penzre van szukseg. Olyan szemelyeket es cegeket keresunk 
>     akik reszt vennenek e nagyszeru dolog gyors piacra viteleben es az nem  
 
>     kallodna sokaig mint annak idelyen pl. a Rubik kocka.
>     Bovebb informacioert a kovetkezo szamok hivhatok:
>
>     Szabo mernok ur Budapest, Tel: 284-7777
>                               Fax: 284-7799
>
>     Torontoban CANAHAM Co.    Tel:(416)425-5854
>                               Fax:(416)425-7951
>
>     E-mail:                  
>
>
>                     Erdeklodeset elore is koszonjuk.

In article >,  (Lajos Laki) wrote:
>
>
>          Kedves Olvaso,
>
>     Szabo Laszlo villamos mernok Ur nagyszeru talalmanyt szabadalmaztatott
>     a mult ev vegen. A talalmany a mar meglevo GPS (Global Positioning
>     System)-re epul. A szabadalom lenyege egy ujfajta "bar-code"-val
>     ellatott kartya. A bar-code tartalmazza egy adott hely(gyors etterem,
>     szalloda, szerviz, szallitasi celpont, turista erdekesseg) vagy barmi 
mas 
>     foldrajzi koordinatait. A kartya GPS keszulekbe helyezve megmutatja a   
 
>     vezetonek milyen messze van a celponttol, merre kell menni, jelzi ha mar 
>     50 meteren belul van es meg sok mas informaciot is szolgaltat.
>     A nagy autogyartokat egyre jobban erdekli a GPS rendszer es Szabo Ur
>     talalmanyaval frappans megoldast fognak talalni. A turizmus szinten
>     oriasi lehetosegeket tartogat e talalmany szamara.a Nemzetkozi
>     Szabadalmi Bizottsag velemenye szerint az otlet 350 Millio dollar       
 
>     ertekkel bir!!!! Egy ilyen nagy hordereju szabadalomnal sok turelemre,  
    
>     targyalasra es penzre van szukseg. Olyan szemelyeket es cegeket keresunk 
>     akik reszt vennenek e nagyszeru dolog gyors piacra viteleben es az nem  
 
>     kallodna sokaig mint annak idelyen pl. a Rubik kocka.
>     Bovebb informacioert a kovetkezo szamok hivhatok:
>
>     Szabo mernok ur Budapest, Tel: 284-7777
>                               Fax: 284-7799
>
>     Torontoban CANAHAM Co.    Tel:(416)425-5854
>                               Fax:(416)425-7951
>
>     E-mail:                  
>
>
>                     Erdeklodeset elore is koszonjuk.

On 4 Apr 1996 18:46:54 GMT,  (Silke-Maria  Weineck)
wrote:

>Followup-To: soc.culture.african.american,soc.culture.austria,soc.culture.balt
ics,soc.culture.intercultural,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.ma
gyar,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.romanian,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.ukr
ainian,soc.culture.
>r
>References: > 
et>
>Distribution: 
>
>S. Duchnowski ) wrote:
>: On 2 Apr 1996 21:56:58 GMT,  (Silke-Maria  Weine
ck)
>: wrote:
>
>
>: >: >Would that include your boss, Kevin?
>: >
>: >: Fresh why don't just fire him instead of intimidating him? 
>: >: Why not shoot the bastard?
>: >: Yeah, for freedom of speech - shut him up, for liberties - incarcerate hi
m.
>: >
>: >Why would freshagain's exercise in his freedom of speech irk you more 
>: >than the antisemite's exercise of his freedom of speech? Whose fantasy is 
>: >the shooting?
>: >
>: Kevins exercised his freedom of speech, freshagain exercised his bad judgmen
t
>: trying to intimidate Kevin. Everybody has a boss, what is the point? Shoul w
e
>: run amok with little scraps of paper ie printouts from internet showing it t
o
>: our bosses? Is that an American Way? You dont' like someone idea - you can
>: attack an idea, not the person, and not this way.
>
>You mean, you can attack Jews, but not Karl, or Kevin, or whomever... And 
>you is holding the world to the American way, anyway?
>
>Silke
Karl attacked (if he did) Jews using usenet, I think we sholdnd resolve to any
aother means than e-mail  or usunet posting.
Logical?


__Slawek Duchnowski


___("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._
___`6_ 6  )   `-.  (     ).`-.__.`)  
___(_Y_.)'  ._   )  `._  `. ``-..-'   
____`--'_..-_/  /--'_.'  ,'            
__(!!).-' ((().'  ((((.-'  
> -------------------------------------------

 (Gabor Barsai) flirts:
>OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhh, you're sick. I like that in a woman.

 (Gyorgy Kovacs)acts dumb:
|You mean the ugly gland? ;-)

Kovacuous. Wally Keeler is right.
Word at the women's dormatory washroom has it that your's is a scrawny
chicken neck. KoVACUOUS. Ha ha ha. Now that's a witty play on words --
and so effectively appropriate. Good one Wally.

Subject: Re: Hicks, was Re: Chicks?

 (Gabor Barsai) flirts:
> OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhh, you're sick. I like that in a woman.

<yawn> You're witless and unoriginal.<yawn> I hate that in a man.<yawn>

Late last month I pun'd Mr KoVACUOUS' name; referred to him as GAYorgy.
This was his self-righteous whine:

         |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^|
         |o Subject: Re: GAY Life in Budapest             o|
         |o On March 26/96 in article                     o|
         |o >  o|
         |o              o|
         |o (Gyorgy Kovacs) whined:                       o|
         |o >You misspell my name on purpose, which is    o|
         |o >rather insulting and childish.               /
         |o        /\                              /\    /
         |/\/\/\  /  \/\/\      /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/  \/\/
                \/        \/\/\/

In the face of this I confess:
1. I did do it on purpose.
2. I intended it to be insulting.
3. It was inherently childish on my part.
4. I meant it to be taken personally.

I invite everyone to read his responses to Brigitta Bali and you will see
at once that Gyorgy Kovacs has been fulfilling all 4 items. Kovacs is an
all too typical self-centred autoerotic homophobic misogynist flavoured as
a whining hypocrite, ie, he's KoVACUOUS!



-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

Kedves Olvaso,


     Szabo Laszlo budapesti mernok nayszeru talalmanyt szabadalmaztatott az 
     elmult ev vegen.

 (Gyorgy Kovacs) wrote:
|Brigitta Bali > wrote:
 (Christina Magyar)
|>>Gyorgy Kovacs ) wrote:
|[stuff deleted]
|>>Just want to clear something up for you guys, ya there are chicks,
|>>females, women, ladies, or what ever you want to call us reading the
|>>articles in this section.       [stuff deleted]
|>>Personaly I think this discussion is getting out of hand.
|>
|>Given the onanistic quality of the male porkers above, I think they
|>have everything in hand. <laughter> <applause> <cheers>
|
|Where in the heck did the 'onanistic quality' come from? What's the base?

For God's sake! Talk about KoVACUOUS! You're about as bright as a ten watt
bulb running on a burntout AAA battery. I think, Brigitta, he is trying now
the sincere approach in an attempt to engage you in a serious dialogue.
Check his hands for callouses first.


-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

Oh Mothers of the Magyar Nation, which little Magyar Morsel are you most
proud of having birthed?

Is it Magyar Morsel 1:
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
o  (Gabor Barsai) wrote:           o
o |Are there any chicks reading this newsgroup? (Beside Marina...)  o
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Is it Maygar Morsel 2:
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
o Laslo Zvekan > wrote:                        o
o >In article >,         o
o >No chicks here, ladys yes and pricks for sure...                 o
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Is it Magyar Morsel 3:
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
o Gyorgy Kovacs ) wrote:          o
o :Hey! The part about the ladies is my line! :-)                   o
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Is it Magyar Morsel 4:
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
o  (leslie howard)                               o
o =It hasn't even started yet!                                      o
o =Why are you wasting your time on the computer? Can't get a date? o
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Is it Magyar Morsel 5:
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
o  (Laszlo Horvath)                               o
o }Don't have to take IT to dinner! No need for flowers, always     o
o }willing......... Can you do better?                              o
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Now let's have a second look at these specimens of biological debris:

Is it Magyar Morselfish 1:
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
o  (Gabor Barsai)                  o
o ]OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhh, you're sick. I like that in a woman.        o
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Is it Magyar Morselfish 3:
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
o  (Gyorgy Kovacs)                 o
o :You mean the ugly gland? ;-)                                     o
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Is it Magyar Morselfish 4:
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
o  (leslie howard)                               o
o =UP OR DOWN, AS LONG AS WE COME!                                  o
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Is it Magyar Morselfish 5:
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
o  (Laszlo Horvath)                               o
o }Thank you! Have you two already met?                             o
o }Or you just generally fond(le) of(ten?) them?                    o
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

After 1000+ years of breeding, the Mothers of the Magyar Nation finally
gave unto the world these fine men who have been well-taught to respect the
fecundity of women, to honour the daughters issued forth from the suffering
wombs of the Magyar Mothers. I can hear all the women of SCM applauding
with pride as the young Men of the Magyar Nation take care of themselves
with abandon. These men are the penultimate carriers of Hungarian DNA in
diaspora. Pity about the chromasome damage though! Better luck in the next
millenium.


-- 
Wally Keeler					Poetry
Creative Intelligence Agency			is
Peoples Republic of Poetry			Poetency

I think I am missing someting with this thread. I did not thinkg that 
this group is for messages of the religious kind, however if our mormom 
friends so desire, I can certainly engage with them in a great 
conversation regarding their origins and leaders such as B. Young and J. 
Smith. Needless to say it would be great to talk about their prophets. 
So, get out and stay out.

To All:

I wish all a truly happy Easter on the remembrance day of the Lord's Resurrecti
on.  It 
is unbelievable but true that Jesus of Nazareth was truly the Son of God and th
e long 
awaited Messiah of the Prophets of Israel.  I invite all to read the 53 chapter
 of the 
book of Isaiah and Psalm 22 as you remember the Lord's suffering and what He di
d for us 
and remember His promise to return, to bring in everlasting righteousness, when
 He 
returns and brings harmony to nature and establishes peace among men.  As we lo
ok about 
us today at the world and all of its problems and how they coincide with the pr
ophecies 
of the Bible it is quite evident that the day of the Lord's return is truly nea
r.  
Praise God, may He send Jesus back soon!

God Bless, Dan K.

 (Lajos Laki) wrote:
>
>
>          Kedves Olvaso,
>
>     Szabo Laszlo villamos mernok Ur nagyszeru talalmanyt szabadalmaztatott
>     a mult ev vegen. A talalmany a mar meglevo GPS (Global Positioning
>     System)-re epul. A szabadalom lenyege egy ujfajta "bar-code"-val
>     ellatott kartya. A bar-code tartalmazza egy adott hely(gyors etterem,
>     szalloda, szerviz, szallitasi celpont, turista erdekesseg) vagy barmi 
      mas foldrajzi koordinatait. A kartya GPS keszulekbe helyezve megmutatja 
      a vezetonek milyen messze van a celponttol, merre kell menni, jelzi ha 
      mar 50 meteren belul van es meg sok mas informaciot is szolgaltat.
>     A nagy autogyartokat egyre jobban erdekli a GPS rendszer es Szabo Ur
>     talalmanyaval frappans megoldast fognak talalni. A turizmus szinten
>     oriasi lehetosegeket tartogat e talalmany szamara.a Nemzetkozi
>     Szabadalmi Bizottsag velemenye szerint az otlet 350 Millio dollar     
      ertekkel bir. Egy ilyen nagy hordereju szabadalomnal sok turelemre,     
      targyalasra es penzre van szukseg. Olyan szemelyeket es cegeket keresunk 
>     akik reszt vennenek e nagyszeru dolog gyors piacra viteleben es az nem  
      kallodna sokaig mint annak idelyen pl. a Rubik kocka.
>     Bovebb informacioert a kovetkezo szamok hivhatok:
>
>     Szabo mernok ur Budapest, Tel: 284-7777
>                               Fax: 284-7799
>
>     Torontoban CANAHAM Co.    Tel:(416)425-5854
>                               Fax:(416)425-7951
>
>     E-mail:                  
>
>
>                     Erdeklodeset elore is koszonjuk.

Eugene J. Markow wrote:
> 
> In article >, Ú
> says...
> >
> >Maybe some of the friendlyness comes from the revolution of
> >1848 when Hungary received significant support from Poland
> >and Polish people.  Also, since then there are lots of
> >Parallels. There aren't that many countries in the region
> >that are both traditionally central european and that
> >Hungary had a clearly positive relationship with. The Czechs
> >and the Slovaks are certainly not it. The Serbs, Croatians
> >and Bosnians aren't either. Neither are the AUstrians or the
> >Romanians. As I know we had no trouble with the Italians,
> >tbu that already is nto a central euopean country
> 
> Yes, and particular mention must be given to General Jozef Bem, a Pole born
> in Tarnow, Poland, who was a hero of the 1830-31 uprising and the 1848
> revolution in Vienna and commander of the revolutionary Hungarian army in
> 1848-49.  I believe there is even a statue of Jozef Bem currently standing
> somewhere in Hungary today.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Eugene J. MarkowAs I know the hungarian history,there was even before the las
t century 
plenty of occasions when polish people were to individual hungarians in 
need, there was times when the hungarian kings were of polish origin. 
There has been  friendly relations beetween the two countries all along.

In article >,
Wally Keeler > wrote:
>
>..........................................................    Kovacs is an
>all too typical self-centred autoerotic homophobic misogynist flavoured as
>a whining hypocrite, ie, he's KoVACUOUS!

Well, at least interesting. Some people have the nerve to state their 
nightmares as facts. I wonder what would be the evidence of me being
- self centered
- autoerotic
- homophobic
- misogynist (whatever the heck that means)
- whining hypocrite
But not really, so don't bother. It would be too easy to join in some friendly 
name calling, but I don't want to sink to that level.
"It's not what you say, it's who you are."
If a nobody said it, it's nothing. You said it, consequently nothing was said.

In article >,  (Lajos Laki) wrote:
>In article >,  (Lajos Laki) 
wrote:
>>
>>
>>          Kedves Olvaso,
>>
>>     Szabo Laszlo villamos mernok Ur nagyszeru talalmanyt szabadalmaztatott
>>     a mult ev vegen. A talalmany a mar meglevo GPS (Global Positioning
>>     System)-re epul. A szabadalom lenyege egy ujfajta "bar-code"-val
>>     ellatott kartya. A bar-code tartalmazza egy adott hely(gyors etterem,
>>     szalloda, szerviz, szallitasi celpont, turista erdekesseg) vagy        
       barmi mas foldrajzi koordinatait. A kartya GPS keszulekbe helyezve     
       megmutatja a   vezetonek milyen messze van a celponttol, merre kell    
       menni, jelzi ha mar 50 meteren belul van es meg sok mas informaciot is 
       szolgaltat. A nagy autogyartokat egyre jobban erdekli a GPS rendszer es 
       Szabo Ur talalmanyaval frappans megoldast fognak talalni. A turizmus   
       szinten oriasi lehetosegeket tartogat e talalmany szamar Nemzetkozi
       Szabadalmi Bizottsag velemenye szerint az otlet 350 Millio dollar      
       ertekkel bir!!!! Egy ilyen nagy hordereju szabadalomnal sok turelemre, 
       targyalasra es penzre van szukseg. Olyan szemelyeket es cegeket        
       keresunk akik reszt vennenek e nagyszeru dolog gyors piacra viteleben  
       es az nem  kallodna sokaig mint annak idelyen pl. a Rubik kocka.
>>     Bovebb informacioert a kovetkezo szamok hivhatok:
>>
>>     Szabo mernok ur Budapest, Tel: 284-7777
>>                               Fax: 284-7799
>>
>>     Torontoban CANAHAM Co.    Tel:(416)425-5854
>>                               Fax:(416)425-7951
>>
>>     E-mail:                  
>>
>>
>>                     Erdeklodeset elore is koszonjuk.

 (Lajos Laki) wrote:
>
>
>          Kedves Olvaso,
>
>     Szabo Laszlo villamos mernok Ur nagyszeru talalmanyt szabadalmaztatott
>     a mult ev vegen. A talalmany a mar meglevo GPS (Global Positioning
>     System)-re epul. A szabadalom lenyege egy ujfajta "bar-code"-val
>     ellatott kartya. A bar-code tartalmazza egy adott hely(gyors etterem,
>     szalloda, szerviz, szallitasi celpont, turista erdekesseg) vagy barmi 
mas 
>     foldrajzi koordinatait. A kartya GPS keszulekbe helyezve megmutatja a   
 
>     vezetonek milyen messze van a celponttol, merre kell menni, jelzi ha mar 
>     50 meteren belul van es meg sok mas informaciot is szolgaltat.
>     A nagy autogyartokat egyre jobban erdekli a GPS rendszer es Szabo Ur
>     talalmanyaval frappans megoldast fognak talalni. A turizmus szinten
>     oriasi lehetosegeket tartogat e talalmany szamara.a Nemzetkozi
>     Szabadalmi Bizottsag velemenye szerint az otlet 350 Millio dollar       
 
>     ertekkel bir. Egy ilyen nagy hordereju szabadalomnal sok turelemre,     
 
>     targyalasra es penzre van szukseg. Olyan szemelyeket es cegeket keresunk 
>     akik reszt vennenek e nagyszeru dolog gyors piacra viteleben es az nem  
 
>     kallodna sokaig mint annak idelyen pl. a Rubik kocka.
>     Bovebb informacioert a kovetkezo szamok hivhatok:
>
>     Szabo mernok ur Budapest, Tel: 284-7777
>                               Fax: 284-7799
>
>     Torontoban CANAHAM Co.    Tel:(416)425-5854
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ulas mangitli > wrote:

>In Turkish

>'Seni seviyorum'

I don't know if you had it yet but un Hebrew:

Ani Ohev otach (a boy to a girl)
Ani Ohevet otcha (a girl to a boy)

Of course you will need to mix it for alternative life styles:))

In article >,
Brigitta Bali > lusts:
>Subject: Re: Hicks, was Re: Chicks?
>
 (Gabor Barsai) flirts:
>> OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhh, you're sick. I like that in a woman.
>
><yawn> You're witless and unoriginal.<yawn> I hate that in a man.<yawn>

Such intentional uninterest can only mean one thing: you want me, you old 
dog...

Gabor

In article >, iFodor  > wrote:
>Kozeledik az Olimpiasz. Ezzel kapcsolatban kivancsi lennek, kinek fognak
>drukkolni a magyar
>kozmopolitak? Del-Amerikai orszagoknak, ahol szepek a nok?  Vagy ahol kevesbe
>fuszeres a
>koszt? Vagy ebbol  ok mar kinottek - senkinek?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...szurkolas egy sport esemenyen es nemzeti erzes
osszefuggese...erdekes.

Ennek kb. annyi ertelme van, mint:

"Ha nem tamogatod a mindenkori magyar kormanyt, nem vagy nemzeti erzesu, hiszen
 
a kormany bukasat akarod, es a kormany kepviseli az orszagot."

vagy meg inkabb:

"Aki nincs velunk, az ellenunk van!"

Egyebkent mi az a "magyar kozmopolita"? Ugyanaz mint a "liberalbolsevik"?

Nekem nagyon tetszenek a mexikoi nok, es izlik a nagyon csipos mexikoi koszt. 
Ez miert bun?

Gabor