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1 Soviets were fighting Hitler in 1956 in Hungary? (mind)  21 sor     (cikkei)
2 Soviets were fighting Hitler in 1956 in Hungary? (mind)  21 sor     (cikkei)
3 Is there a Hungarian word for "cool"? (mind)  5 sor     (cikkei)
4 Song Of The Cedars (Tanoury) (mind)  39 sor     (cikkei)
5 Soviets were fighting Hitler in 1956 in Hungary? (mind)  21 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: HELP: I m looking for christmas greetings in foreig (mind)  123 sor     (cikkei)
7 Hungarian WWW information FAQ (mind)  268 sor     (cikkei)
8 Re: HELP: I m looking for christmas greetings in foreig (mind)  24 sor     (cikkei)
9 Just try this, it will work (mind)  142 sor     (cikkei)
10 Re: Just try this, it will work (mind)  18 sor     (cikkei)
11 Re: The Ottoman Empire and the German Reformation (mind)  45 sor     (cikkei)
12 For the Peace of Chechnya! (mind)  40 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Soviets were fighting Hitler in 1956 in Hungary? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
	Yuri V. Andropov was one of the most refined Soviet officials. A
topranking NKVD officer as well as diplomat, he spoke many languages,
including excellent Hungarian. As he had been a port official
receiving wartime Allied convoys he also spoke good English...
	He had been at the Budapest embassy since 1953, was a close friend of
[today celebrated!-JT] prime minister Hegedus, and by 1956 had the
kind of position that gauleiters were assigned in occupied
countries.... Andropov was an apparatchik, a funky to whom the power
structure, rather than the Party's ideology, was all-important... [It
must be noted here that Mikhail Gorbacev was his protege, (!) his
pupil. Perhaps Andropov was the father of perestroyka?-JT]
	In Budapest, in October 1956, the young soldiers of General Batov,
General Larshenko and Yuri Andropov were dying. Many of them did not
know where they were or why they were there. Some believed themselves
in Berlin, fighting *Hitler's hordes again,* or on the banks of the
Suez Canal fighting the British. (...)[excerpts from UPRISING, by
David Irving. - Veritas Publ. Co. Pty.Ltd. Australia/ 1981]
Posted by Judit Toth
http://www.infobahnos.com/~jtoth.indexit4.html
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
+ - Soviets were fighting Hitler in 1956 in Hungary? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
	Yuri V. Andropov was one of the most refined Soviet officials. A
topranking NKVD officer as well as diplomat, he spoke many languages,
including excellent Hungarian. As he had been a port official
receiving wartime Allied convoys he also spoke good English...
	He had been at the Budapest embassy since 1953, was a close friend of
[today celebrated!-JT] prime minister Hegedus, and by 1956 had the
kind of position that gauleiters were assigned in occupied
countries.... Andropov was an apparatchik, a funky to whom the power
structure, rather than the Party's ideology, was all-important... [It
must be noted here that Mikhail Gorbacev was his protege, (!) his
pupil. Perhaps Andropov was the father of perestroyka?-JT]
	In Budapest, in October 1956, the young soldiers of General Batov,
General Larshenko and Yuri Andropov were dying. Many of them did not
know where they were or why they were there. Some believed themselves
in Berlin, fighting *Hitler's hordes again,* or on the banks of the
Suez Canal fighting the British. (...)[excerpts from UPRISING, by
David Irving. - Veritas Publ. Co. Pty.Ltd. Australia/ 1981]
Posted by Judit Toth
http://www.infobahnos.com/~jtoth.indexit4.html
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
+ - Is there a Hungarian word for "cool"? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

I keep thinking what the equivalent Hungarian word would be for the
American slang "cool", but can't think of any.  I'm sure the literal
translation (hu"vo~s) isn't it.  Anybody?

Joe
+ - Song Of The Cedars (Tanoury) (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

_________________________________________________________________________

                        Song Of The Cedars

        Your church bells ring shrill in the mountain air,
        Like a woman's cries lamenting the loss of her children,
        Your son's scattered as widely as your holy wood,
        Toward every point on a sailor's compass, your daughters
        Carried off to the hinterlands like Europa speeding off
        On the back of Zeus, yet the miles and years never dim
        Their memory of you, a mountain village hidden in the
        Shadows of the cedar groves, telling their children of
        The land they left and the magic trees that sucked up
        The spirit and strength of the mountains they grew on.

        Cedars for boats manned by dark skinned sailors,
        Ladened with colored glass and polished brass,
        Billowing crimson sails cutting across a purple sea
        In the twilight dawn of history, speeding west bound for
        Cyprus, Crete and Carthage, Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica,
        Out beyond the Pillars of Heracles, bouncing on the
        Tall waves of the Dark Sea in tiny boats of mountain wood.
        Cedars marked for Egypt and the tombs of pharaohs, the
        Babylonian palaces of Nebuchadnezzar and Tiglath-pileser,
        For Judea and Solomon's temple, the palaces of Byzantium,
        Mosques of Islam, crusader's castles, basilicas in Rome,
        Cathedrals in France, cedars tumbling down the slopes,
        The mountains echoing their fall, their thundering crash.

        Your church bells ring shrill in the morning air,
        As your sheep graze in the valley, and men ride donkeys
        Down winding trails, but your cedars are gone,
        Felled and spent years ago and have followed the
        Old Phoenician glory into the twilight dusk of antiquity,
        Olive groves now grace the slopes, and the only
        Thunder that echoes in the mountains are the sonic booms
        Of Syrian MIGs jetting over the snowcapped peaks.

        (c)1996 Doug Tanoury
+ - Soviets were fighting Hitler in 1956 in Hungary? (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
	Yuri V. Andropov was one of the most refined Soviet officials. A
topranking NKVD officer as well as diplomat, he spoke many languages,
including excellent Hungarian. As he had been a port official
receiving wartime Allied convoys he also spoke good English...
	He had been at the Budapest embassy since 1953, was a close friend of
[today celebrated!-JT] prime minister Hegedus, and by 1956 had the
kind of position that gauleiters were assigned in occupied
countries.... Andropov was an apparatchik, a funky to whom the power
structure, rather than the Party's ideology, was all-important... [It
must be noted here that Mikhail Gorbacev was his protege, (!) his
pupil. Perhaps Andropov was the father of perestroyka?-JT]
	In Budapest, in October 1956, the young soldiers of General Batov,
General Larshenko and Yuri Andropov were dying. Many of them did not
know where they were or why they were there. Some believed themselves
in Berlin, fighting *Hitler's hordes again,* or on the banks of the
Suez Canal fighting the British. (...)[excerpts from UPRISING, by
David Irving. - Veritas Publ. Co. Pty.Ltd. Australia/ 1981]
Posted by Judit Toth
http://www.infobahnos.com/~jtoth.indexit4.html
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
+ - Re: HELP: I m looking for christmas greetings in foreig (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,
   "M.K." > wrote:
>aheringer wrote:
>> 
>> In article >, 
>> says...
>> >
>> >Hello everybody,
>> >
>> >I live in the Netherlands and I'm looking for christmas greetings in
>> many
>> >foreign languages, for example:
>> >Merry christmas and a happy new year (English)
>> >Prettige kerstdagen en een gelukkig nieuwjaar (Dutch)
>> >
>> >Who can help me to find more international christmas greetings?
>> >If so, mail to: 
>> >
>> >--
>> >Thanks!
>> >
>> >Greetings,
>> >                
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >You have already received the Hungarian and Spanish versions.  Here is
>> the German one:  Froehliche Weinachten und ein glueckliches neues Jahr!
>> >
>
> The Hellenic (Greek) one is " Kala Xristoygena " :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>Go to the sites that reveal the Turkish Barbaric Crimes
>
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/agamemnon/Violate.htm
>http://www.hellasweb.com/commun/NAISSUES/TURKS/turkgifs.htm
>http://www.hellasweb.com/commun/NAISSUES/TURKS/TURKS.htm
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/agamemnon/humanrig.HTM
>http://www.amnesty.org


Here is the Urdu one bro.

Jhumur ja yuore hpoerr sjkwet

Dagor
































































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+ - Hungarian WWW information FAQ (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

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     Hungarian electronic resources FAQ

3.      Interactive services
3.1  What's available on the World Wide Web

 The following is the chapter recently removed from the main body of
the hungarian-faq. This is not yet completely re-edited for stand-alone
format, nor completing a collection of all important links has been
attempted. For more comprehensive WWW directories see, for example:
<http://www.hungary.com/hudir/>;, <http://www.hungary.com/hudir/>; or
<http://www.fsz.bme.hu/hungary/homepage.html>;.
 This version 0.2 contains some aditional links not shown in 0.1,=20
see the HTML listing appended near the end of this document!

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: 3. INTERACTIVE SERVICES

 If you are using Hungarian interactive services from abroad (or vice
versa): please note that interactive Internet connections like WWW
may be very slow, even timing out during peak hours - try times of
lower network load when the response time is usually reasonable.

- ------------------------------

Subject: 3.1  What's available on the World Wide Web

 This document you are reading now is hosted at
<http://www.hix.com/hungarian-faq/hungarian-faq/web>;, and its directory
has a few other documents and several links to other sites of
interest.

 The Hungarian Home Page is at
<http://www.fsz.bme.hu/hungary/homepage.html>; with links to the
registered Hungarian www servers, including

     - the Prime Minister's Office:  <http://www.meh.hu>; (overseas users
    please notice that the use of the <http://www.hungary.com/meh/>;
    mirror is requested to cut down transatlantic traffic!)

     - a weather forecast page (this is updated daily, and includes weather
    forecasts, meteorological maps, and METEOSAT satellite images; this
    page is in Hungarian)

     - home pages of Hungarian cities (currently Budapest, Debrecen,
    Miskolc, Pecs, Szeged), and of educational and other institutions=20

     - a comprehensive list of Hungarian telnet services (e.g. library=20
    databases), gopher and ftp sites (3.2). The content of almost all the=
=20
    Hungarian FTP sites is indexed and can be searched.

 The Hungary Online Directory (HUDIR) is at
<http://www.hungary.com/hudir/>; featuring a hierarchical
database of Hungarian online content worldwide. Currently it has links
in excess of 2500.

 HIX has a WWW server in the USA: the URL is <http://www.hix.com>;.
To check out fresh content, see <http://www.hix.com/friss2/>;, which
gives you a comprehensive table of content for new material arrived in
the last 24 hours (which is typically in the order of 100-150 pages).
Besides back issues of its email journals, and a plethora of other
files in Hungarian and English, it offers an on-line English-Hungarian,
Hungarian-English dictionary (<http://www.hix.com/hix/szotar/>; - its
European mirror is at <http://tpri6l.gsi.de/szotar.html>;), and various
home pages and pointers to other sources. Partial mirrors located in
Hungary are <http://www.eunet.hu/eunet/hix/>; (for the Magyar Narancs
archive), and <http://hal9000.elte.hu/hix/>; (for some pictures, and
searching the Radir database - see below).

 Hungary.Network - The GateWWWay to Hungary at
<http://www.hungary.com/>; has a number of government, commercial and
organizational users listed.

 TourInform is at <http://www.hungary.com/tourinform/>; is the service
of the Hungarian Tourism Service, the official promotion agency of the
Hungarian Tourist Board. They offer practical information, maps,
broshures and even tours on video casette.

 The Open Media Research Institute has a WWW server, available at
<http://www.omri.cz>;.  Available at this Web site are all back issues
of the Daily Digest, tables of contents for Transition, OMRI's
bi-weekly analytical journal, and information about OMRI's activities
and staff.

 The World Wide Web server of Central Europe Today is at the URL
<http://www.eunet.cz>;.

 Find back issues of the Hungary Report on the World Wide Web at=20
<http://www.yak.net/hungary-report/>; or <http://www.isys.hu/hol>;.=20
The Hungary-Online archive is available from=20
<http://www.yak.net/hungary-online/>; or <http://www.isys.hu/hrep>;=20
as well.

 There is a growing Hungarian resource directory at
<http://mineral.umd.edu/hir/>;. [The same server also hosts a
 "Hungarian Electronic Resources FAQ"<http://mineral.umd.edu/faq/>;.]

 There is a"Foreign Languages for Travellers"collection of essential
Hungarian expressions with English, German and French explanation,
complete with sound at
<http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~mmartin/languages/hungarian/hungarian.htm=
l>.

 The American Association of Young Hungarians (AAYH) has its homepage
at <http://www.aayh.org/>;.

 A Hungarian church in Chicago has info at
 <http://users.aol.com/MikeC16958/>;.

 The Gyorgy Bessenyei Teachers Training College (Nyiregyhaza) offers=20
some 3000 pages worth of database for Szabolcs-Szatmar-Bereg county=20
(Eastern Hungary) as well as other goodies and general Internet help,
in both Hungarian and English: <http://www.bgytf.hu/>;.

 See also section 2.3 above, which covers
<http://www.siliconvalley.com/>; and refers to other links as well.

 The following is a somewhat random working list, in HTML format,
of webpages of interest recently announced (which I haven't yet had
the time to check out or incorporate with further description):

<A HREF=3D"http://www.fsz.bme.hu/wn/">
 "What's new in Hungary?" =09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://users.deltanet.com/~kingavp/">
 "KINGA'S COOL HUNGARIAN LINKS" =09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://mason.gmu.edu/~achassel/index.html">
 "Historical Text Archive, Hungarian Images and Historical Background"> =09=
</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/kfa4kuvasz/index.htm">
 "Kuvasz Fanciers of America" =09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mkogy.hu/">
 "Magyar Orsz=E1ggy=FBl=E9si Hivatal" =09</A> <P>

<A HREF=3D"http://www.nepszabadsag.hu/">
 "Nepszabadsag Online"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.datanet.hu/szignum">
 "Szignum Media Hirlevel"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.enet.hu/clients/bohemelet/">
 "Bohemelet"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.hdsys.hu/">
 "Az Apple Computer Magyarorszagon"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://silicon.terra.vein.hu/sci/intro.html">
 "Utilapu Halozat - SCI Hungary"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.fornax.hu/napi/">
 "Napi Gazdasag On-Line"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mhirlap.hu/">
 "Magyar Hirlap Ottlap"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.enet.hu/otherside">
 "Other Side Magazin"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.bdtf.hu/konyvtar/sup/sup.html">
 "A Savaria University Press Alapitvany honlapja"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://lingua.arts.klte.hu/summer/summer.htm">
 "Debrecen Summer School"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.eunet.hu/median/ifered.html">
 "Az elso magyar online internet-felmeres eredmenyei"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.enet.hu/jozsefattila">
 "Jozsef Attila"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://WWW.iSYS.hu/remindme">
 "RemindMe"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://WWW.iSYS.hu/nevnap/">
 "Nevnap Emlekezteto"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://WWW.iSYS.hu/nameday/">
 "Nameday Reminder"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.datanet.hu/primpress">
 "Ujsag"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.datanet.hu/artnet/beauty/index">
 "Virtualis Vilagszepe Valasztas 1996"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.fornax.hu/fmon/valuta/index.html">
 "Valuta arfolyamok"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.fornax.hu/fmon/commod/batmenu.html">
 "Budapesti Arutozsde napi statisztika"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.idg.hu/expo">
 "Internet Expo Hungarian Pavilion"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.idg.hu/internetto/friss/netinform/">
 "iNteRNeTTo, Budapest"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.kossuth.enet.hu/">
 "Kossuth Radio"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://year1100.iif.hu/">
 "Millecentenariumi rendezvenyek programfuzete"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.datanet.hu/szfold/szfold.htm">
 "Szabad Fold hetilap"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.sch.bme.hu/~steve/e-mail.html">
 "Kapcsolattartas e-mail utjan az Interneten"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.starkingnet.hu/bcc/internet_piac/">
 "interNET PIAC"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.enet.hu/bpweek">
 "Budapest Week"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.spiderweb.hu/jurix/jurix.html">
 "Jurix jogszabalygyujtemeny a halon"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.iqsoft.hu/pages/h_hmj.html">
 "HMJ - Magyar Gazdasagi Jogszabalyok Haromnyelvu gyujtemenye"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.inf.bme.hu/esatt_indis/docs_hu/rtdhun/hmj_e.html">
 "HMJ - Hungarian Economic Rules of Law"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.tiszanet.hu/mszp/">
 "MSZP Szeged"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.htbt.hu/">
 "H.T.BT. Honlap"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mav.hu/">
 "A MAV Rt. www szervere"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mav.hu/">
 "Hungarian State Railways Co."=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.mek.iif.hu/">
 "Magyar Elektronikus Konyvtar (Web felulettel)"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.uni-miskolc.hu:8080/SZOTAR">
 "Angol-magyar, magyar-angol szotar"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.ikm.hu/">
 "Ipari, Kereskedelmi es Idegenforgalmi Miniszterium"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.bankonekt.hu/translat/mfe.htm">
 "Magyarorszagi Forditoirodak Egyesulete"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.bankonekt.hu/translat/mfe.htm">
 "Association of Hungarian Translation Companies"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.InterWare.hu/">
 "Szolgaltatasok az InterWare-nel"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.InterWare.hu/index.us.html">
 "Services at InterWare"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://www.enet.hu/emiquint/">
 "EMI Quint"=09</A> <P>
<A HREF=3D"http://emc.elte.hu/~ve/index.html">
 "Vilagegyetem - Egyetemistak es foiskolasok ketheti lapja"=09</A> <P>

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+ - Re: HELP: I m looking for christmas greetings in foreig (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Aliof Hassanovic > schreibt:
> On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Ron Wijben wrote:
> 
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > I live in the Netherlands and I'm looking for christmas greetings in many 
> > foreign languages, for example:
> > Merry christmas and a happy new year (English)
> > Prettige kerstdagen en een gelukkig nieuwjaar (Dutch)
> > 
> > Who can help me to find more international christmas greetings?
> > If so, mail to: 
> > 
> > --
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Greetings,
> >                 
> > 
> > 
>   Vesele Vanoce a stastni novy rok (Czech)
> 
>   Tyros
>
+ - Just try this, it will work (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life.
 
 The Internet has grown tremendously. It doubles in size every 4 months.
 think about it. You see those 'Make.Money.Fast' posts more and more.
 That's ... because it WORKS !  So I thought, all those new users might
 make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago.  Besides,
 whats $5.00, I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on
 coffee and cigs for the day. So I sent in my money and posted.
 Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from
 AOL, Netcom, etc. they will join in and make it work for you.

 Well, two weeks later, I began recieving bucks in the mail!  I couldn't
 believe it! Not just a little, I mean big bucks!  At first only a few
 hundred dollars, then a week later, a couple of thousand, then BOOM. By
 the end of the fourth week, I had recieved nearly $47,000.00. It came
 from all over the world. And every bit of it perfectly legal and on the
 up and up. I've been able to pay off all my bills and still had enough
 left over for a nice vacation for me and my family.

 Not only does it work for me, it works for other folks as well.  Markus
 Valppu says he made $57,883 in four weeks. Dave Manning claims he made
 $53,664 in the same amount of time. Dan Shepstone says it was only
 $17,000 for him. Do I know these folks? No, but when I read how they
 say they did it, it made sense to me. Enough sense that I'm taking a
 similar chance with $5 of my own bucks. Not a big chance, I admit--but
 one with incredible potential, because $5 is all anyone ever invests in
 this system. Period. That's all Markus, Dave, or Dan invested, yet
 their $5 netted them tens of thousands of dollars each, in a safe,
 legal, completely legitimate way. Here's how it works in 3 easy steps:

STEP 1.

Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five seperate pieces
of paper along with the words: "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." (In
this way, you're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're paying for
a legitimate service.) Fold a $1 bill, money order, or bank note inside
each paper, and mail them by standard U. S. Mail to the following five
addresses:

 1-  Fern Suarez
     Mallorca 112
     Hato Rey, P.R., USA, 00917
 
 2-  Philippe
     2104 De Mexico
     Chomedey, Laval
     Quebec, Canada     
     H7M 3C6    
     
 3-  Natalie Jansen
     Lancveldlaan 18
     5671 CN Nuenen
     Holland
  
 4-  Chad Collier
     2785 Cold Springs Rd. #49
     Placerville, CA  95667  

 5-  Steve Boltinghouse
     1009 Bird St.
     Hannibal, MO  63401

STEP 2.

    Now remove the top name from the list, and move the
    other names up.This way, #5 becomes #4 and so on.
    Put your name in as the fifth one on the list.


STEP 3.

    Post the article to at least 250 newsgroups. There are at
    least 19000 newsgroups at any given moment in time.
    Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can. Remember
    the more groups you post to, the more people will see your
    article and send you cash!


STEP 4.

    You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing
    returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the Internet is new
    and huge. There is no way you can lose.
 
    Now here is how and why this system works:
 
    Out of every block of 250 posts I made, I got back 5 responses.
    Yes, thats right,only 5. You make $5.00 in cash, not checks or
    money orders, but real cash with your name at #5.
 
    Each additional person who sent you $1.00 now also makes 250
    additional postings with your name at #4, 1000 postings. On
    average then, 50 people will send you $1.00 with your name at
    #4,....$50.00 in your pocket!
 
    Now these 50 new people will make 250 postings each with your
    name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return, 500 people= $500.
    They make 250 postings each with your name at #2= 100,000
    postings=5000 returns at $1.00 each=$5,000.00 in cash!
 
    Finally, 5,000 people make 250 postings each with your name at
    #1 and you get a return of $60,000 before your name drops off
    the list.And that's only if everyone down the line makes only 250
    postings each! Your total income for this one cycle is $55,000.
 
    From time to time when you see your name is no longer on the list,
    you take the latest posting you can find and start all over again.

		The end result depends on you. You must follow through
		and repost this article everywhere you can think of.
		The more  postings you  make, the more cash ends up in
		your mailbox. It's too easy and too cheap to pass up!!!

    So thats it. Pretty simple sounding stuff, huh? But believe me, it
    works. There are millions of people surfing the net every day, all
    day, all over the world. And 100,000 new people get on the net
    every day. You know that, you've seen the stories in the paper.
    So, my friend, read and follow the simple instructions and play
    fair. Thats the key, and thats all there is to it. Print this out
    right now so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep
    an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is
    playing fairly. You know where your name should be.

    If you're really not sure or still think this can't be
    for real, then don't do it. But please print this article and pass it
    along to someone you know who really needs the bucks, and see
    what happens.


    REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.YOU DON'T
    NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE BUCKS!
    GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOU WILL
    WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH!

*** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages
with your name in the list and not sending the bucks to the people
already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this
and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent
the 5 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had
over $10,000!

		TRY IT AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY!!!  :o) !!!!!!!!!!
+ - Re: Just try this, it will work (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Stephen,

I cannot wait to send you my $1,000, but I cannot read yr message. It
is too long. How do i do this. I want to be rich too, pls help... and
send me a short instruction where to send the money..

 (Stephen Boltinghouse) wrote:

>
>Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life.
> 
> The Internet has grown tremendously. It doubles in size every 4 months.
> think about it. You see those 'Make.Money.Fast' posts more and more.
> That's ... because it WORKS !  So I thought, all those new users might
> make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago.  Besides,
> whats $5.00, I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on
> coffee and cigs for the day. So I sent in my money and posted.
> Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from
+ - Re: The Ottoman Empire and the German Reformation (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Ingman wrote:
> 
> E-MAIL ADDRESSES OF HISTORIANS OF TURKISH HISTORY AND BOOKS ON TURKISH HISTOR
Y
> 
> I am  Sauli Ingman from Finland. I am studying history at the university
> of Helsinki.  I am  most interested in the relations between Sultan
> Süleyman Kanuni, Emperor  Charles the V and his brother Ferdinand Archduke
> of Austria, and the German Protestants. My special subject is how Turkey
> benefited from the German reformation as the Ottoman empire continued its
> expansion  into Europe from 1521 onwards. Do you  know of any book or
> article, about  how Turkey benefited from the German reformation, the
> German and other Protestants and Martin Luther 1521 - 1606? Moreover, do
> you know of any information available on the Internet on the same subject?
> 
> Are there any Turkish archiv sources on the same subject? I have a Turkish
> point of view on this subject.
> 
> I am also interested in the history of Turkey generally.  I would like to
> get e-mail addresses of historians  of Turkish history, because I would
> like to discuss the history of Turkey with them.
> 
> Please e-mail your messages directly to me. Thank you.
> 
> My e-mail is: 
> 
> Yours sincerely
> 
> Sauli Ingman

Read Ivan N. Ostroumoff's THe History of the COuncil of Florence.  Follow 
threads bavckwards to the Byzantine correspondence with early Reformation 
figures.  Contrast this correspondence up to the period of the COuncil of 
Ferrara Florence with the smae arguments of East-West differences as 
covered at the Counci of Florence.  What you are suggesting as an area of 
thesis inquiry has some value but not before the earlier period is done 
properly.

Note the extant collection of Mark Eugenicus's disputations with Ottoman 
and other late beylik Turks, Orthodoxy vs. Islam.  Another area that must 
be thoroughly covered before you attempt the later period.

Good to see someone working on this.

Galina Schneider.
+ - For the Peace of Chechnya! (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

"For the Peace of Chechnya!"

  We take action in e-mailing the petition to Japanese government.
Please visit our site (http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~kv6y-frsw/),
if you are agree with the petition.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------

Sir: the Prime Minister of Japanese government                                 
    

                            Petition

  WE PETITION THAT JAPANESE GOVERNMENT SHOULD ADOPT CONVENTION ON
THE PREVENTION AND PUNISHMENT OF THE CRIME OF GENOCIDE, AND CLAIM
THE ORGANS OF UNITED NATIONS TO INVESTIGATE AND PREVENT GENOCIDE
BY RUSSIAN TROOPS IN CHECHNYA

  Reported all over the world that some russian troops laid siege
to villages in Chechnya and killed group including unarmed people
there.
  Those acts, apparently, come under genocide, as defined in
 Article 3 of Convention on the prevention and punishment of the 
crime of Genocide(Genocide convention). But nowadays courts 
under Article 6 of this convention have never taken action in
the problem.

  Meanwhile Japan is not member of this convention ,therefore 
dose not have the right to claim organs of United Nations to take
any measure(Article 8).
  Considering Japan was an ally with Nazism, Japan should 
ratify Genocide convention, and claim United Nations to
investigate and prevent genocide by russian troops in Chechnya.


Yours respectfully  
> --------------------------------------------------------------------

For the Pease of Chechnya!
Yasuhiko furusawa


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