In article > , 
writes:
> Magyarorszagon ez most
>kulonosen kapora jott a volt komsi elitnek, akik ezt meglovagolva
>elterelhetik a figyelmet sajat elszamoltatasukrol.  Nevezhetnenk ezt
>politikai "erdekhazassagnak", vagy ha ugy tetszik, "unholy alliance"-nak.

Szerintem nem igy mukodik. A komcsik kihasznaljak
a kamposorruakat azzal, hogy ha egy kommunistat,
ami faji es vallasi felekezeten kivuleso alacsony-
rendu es pusztitando eletforma, tamadas er, elkezd
visitani, hogy antiszemitizmus, antiszemitizmus !! 
Az emlitett nepcsoportban ez a szo [1] felteteles ref-
lexeket indit el, es heves kenyszeres visongasba kez-
denek. A tetves kommunistat megtamado egyen erre
visszakozni kenyszerul. A kommunista jot rohog a
markaba.

Nincs itt szo "erdekhazassagrol", csak emberi osto-
basag kihasznalasanak minositett eseterol.

Tamas

[1]. Allathangokat kell utanozni az iskolaban, mire Mo-
roczka szongya, hogy o" ugyan egyet sem tud, de a nagy-
apja a baglyot, azt tokeletesen... Szoval behozatjak ve-
le a venembert, betolja a suliba a toloszeken  A tanito-
neni keri, hogy bacsi legyen szives csinaljon ugy mint a
bagoly, az oregur csak pislog nagy okat. Moriczka erre:
-Nem igy kell ezt tanitoneni! 
--Naagyaapaaa !!! Mikor baszott utoljara ??
-- Huhuhuhuhuhu, huuh,huu, huu !!!!!!

Tamas

Fiction

In article >,
>    (MEgorov) wrote:
>>CONTRY: Hungary
>>CULTURE:Non  European
>>RACE:      Non  European ( Mongolic Turk)
>>RELIGION: (Inpoused) Cristian
>>HISTORY: Play the role of mercenarys (Very relible for Austrans)
>>ECONOMY: Dependening on Austria,GERMANY
>>POLACY:  Commanded by  AUSTRO-GERMANS
>>FUTURE:   Unknown

Fact

COUNTRY: Hungarian Republic
CULTURE: The nation who gave the following great men to the World: Bela Bartok,
Ferenc Liszt, Mihaly Munkacsi, Victor Vasarelli, Zoltan Kodaly, George Czukor,
etc. etc. etc
RACE: Human
RELIGION: Christian, Jewish , Traces of Moslim and Buddhist, Ateist
HISTORY: 1100 years with hostile slavic neighbours, and there is still a nation
to celebrate it.
ECONOMY: Ruined by the brute force of the largest slavic country
FUTURE: see economy

Megorov, Megorov, you can't even spell.

Try finding albums by the group'Muszik=E5s'. Marta has sung with them a lot=
 but they =

are wonderful with or without her.

Subj:	Re: history
Date:	96-06-14 19:34:45 EDT
From:	 (Don)
To:	

It should be something like <byal-uh>. Is this you Margaret? DD


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Subj:	Re: HUNGARIAN LANGUAGE
Date:	96-06-17 15:38:57 EDT
From:	 (Gyorgy Kovacs)
To:	

>
> I can assure you that the stupidity is on your part.I do not see what a
> "flame war" got to do with my simple statement. The statement is a
reality
> and it is  accepted as such by
> many historians.Although I recognize that the last part of my statement
> "Future=unknown" is unpleasant and unrealistic.
>
>
Bullshit on all counts. Thanks for strengthening my point.


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idiot forwards it to the newgroup anyway. JUST IGNORE IT.

In article >, MEgorov > wrote:
>From:     (Gyorgy Kovacs)
>To: 
>
>Are you just plain stupid, or just trying to rev up a flame war?
>

In article > Mikl=?iso-8859-1?Q?=F3s Kiss,
 writes:
>Try finding albums by the group'Muszik=E5s'. Marta has sung with them a lot=
> but they =
>
>are wonderful with or without her.

There is a song on the French (?) CD called Deep forest
whose title is Maria's song and - sulplise, sulplise- she
sings it.

Tamas

In article > Mpflerr, 
writes:
>A fenti szemelyeskedes teljesen felesleges volt, angolul ezt ugy hivjak,
>hogy "dirty pool" vagy u~tes "below the belt".

[1] Nem-e lehetne-e esetleg-e nemetul is megirni, hogy mit jelent,
hatha ez az Odor gyerek nem tud angolul, mivel egy osztrak cimrol
ir ?

[2] Nem-e lehetseges-e, hogy az "u~tes "below the belt"" magyarul
annyit tesz, hogy ovon aluli utes ?

[3] Hogy az angolok ezt igy mondjak, egy sulyos erv akar lenni vagy
csak mero lekezelo kioktatas ?

Tamas

In article >,  says...
>
>In article > , 
>writes:
>> Magyarorszagon ez most
>>kulonosen kapora jott a volt komsi elitnek, akik ezt meglovagolva
>>elterelhetik a figyelmet sajat elszamoltatasukrol.  Nevezhetnenk ezt
>>politikai "erdekhazassagnak", vagy ha ugy tetszik, "unholy alliance"-nak.
>
>Szerintem nem igy mukodik. A komcsik kihasznaljak
>a kamposorruakat azzal, hogy ha egy kommunistat,
>ami faji es vallasi felekezeten kivuleso alacsony-
>rendu es pusztitando eletforma, tamadas er, elkezd
>visitani, hogy antiszemitizmus, antiszemitizmus !! 
>Az emlitett nepcsoportban ez a szo [1] felteteles ref-
>lexeket indit el, es heves kenyszeres visongasba kez-
>denek. A tetves kommunistat megtamado egyen erre
>visszakozni kenyszerul. A kommunista jot rohog a
>markaba.
>
>Nincs itt szo "erdekhazassagrol", csak emberi osto-
>basag kihasznalasanak minositett eseterol.
>
>Tamas
>



1. A zsidok *kamposorru* megnevezese serto, mint ahogy a romanokat nem
hivhatod *szo:ro:stalpu' mo'cok*-nak, es ahogy egy magyar is megsertodik,
amikor az osztrakok a magyarokat emlegetven azt mondjak: *A magyarok,...
azok csak egy cigany nepseg...*  (Es itt a cigany nem neprajzi ertelemben,
hanem csak pejorativ jelzokent.) Vagy a Becsben uzletekben lathato
feliratok, amik kerik a magyar latogatokat, hogy fizessenek az arukert
amit magukkal akarnak vinni.

2. A zsidosag es a kommunistasag osszekapcsolasa nem csak serto,
de kifejezetten uszito is, azon tul, hogy totalisan hazug, nem szolgal
mas celt, mint a kommunistakat joggal utalokat antiszemitizmusra
buzditja. Ez az osszekapcsolas mar tobbszor szerepelt mint az celtudatos
ostobasag mintapeldaja.

3. Az emlitett nepcsoport nem visong. Az elgazoditast is neman turte,
es most, hogy sajat orszaga van, nem koteles senkinek a hulyeseget szo 
nelkul hagyni. Nem is igen teszi. Ez elegge fajt regebben a kommunistaknak,
pl. SzU, mostanaban meg az ebredezo naciknak meg 
magukat patriotaknak, meg hazafiaknak nevezo fasisztoid elemeknek.

//Laszlo

I am wondering what the word "Arrol" means.  Is it a word or a name?
I ask because I have only seen this word used in Hungarian and as a
Scottish last name.  

Jennifer Fulton

Subj:	Re: HUNGARIAN LANGUAGE
Date:	96-06-17 23:33:02 EDT
From:	MEgorov
To:	

It is a delate to converse with people who ignore words as "stupid" and
"bullshit"
even if provoked.
My statement  which definatly irritated you to a point of sincere
exchalacition was 
stated  by me NOT IN DISRESPECT TO A  PARTICUCLAR NATIONALITY.
It was ment to show (to those who are thinking important and
implicitly...,arogant 
and aristocratic) that the nature of things is tri-dimensional
(approachable from all sides 
in a  logical manner).
My statement approached you at the right time and will  definitly have an
imact on you ,
(if you are not an ignorant).
Furthermore, it is my duty to respond to your provocation.
You must be familiar with the so called "URALIC" or "FINO UGRIC"
languages.
From Britanica:"Racially the Uralic people present an unhomogeneous
picture.
In general,they may be consedered a blend of Europeans and Mongoloid
types,with the 
more western groups(especially the Hunganrians,Baltic-Finnic and Erzya
Mardvin groups)being strongly European and those east of the Urals
primarily Mongoloid".
Here we can add Constantine Porphyrogenitus,who constantly called the
Hungarians
"Turks".
And certanly the writer of your anonymous chronicle, who states that the
Huns of "Flagellum  Dei" are the Hungarians of today.

In article > Peter Szaszvari,
 writes:
>Erdekes! Hogyan kell letolteni Nemenyitol a pornot ?

Send me too !

Tamas  :-) :-)

In article >,
   Senator Exon > wrote:
>  Tudoma'nyos inte'zme'nyek tagjai ha megjelennek a nyilva'-
>nossa'g elo"tt, szoka's szerint munka'juk egy tiszteletpe'l-
>da'nya't elku:ldik az inte'zme'ny vezeto"inek. Neme'nyi u'r 
[...]
Erdekes level. Nagyon jol mutatja, hogyan hasznalja fel valaki a 
demagogia eszkozeit, a tettetett naivitast, a partner 
feltetelezett (es letezo) tudashianyat arra, hogy jol kiszurjon 
valakivel.
A level csopog a hazug aggodalomtol, ami megis alkalmas a 
munkaltatoban felelmek keltesere.
Azt hiszem ezt tenyleg nevezhetjuk bazi nagy ov alatti utesnek.

Felrertes ne essek, Nemenyi altalam olvasott irasait magyarra 
forditott hanyaskent ertekelem, ugyanakkor ez a modszer 
vitapartnerunk elintezesere egyszeruen izlestelen, es 
megengedhetetlen.

Sajnos a leveliro szamitasai bevaltak ,(es ez nem meglepo) a 
munkaltato fold buta volt, vagy csak jo alkalmat kapott a 
Nemenyitol valo megszabadulasra.

Ennyi a velemenyem, most lehet kitalalni, hogy ez liberalis, 
liberalbolsevik, nacionalista, fasiszta vagy mi...


Szaszvari Peter
(http://iap11.ethz.ch/users/szp/szp.htm)

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> >He is an idiot, but why bring this stupid racist, homophobic
> >etc stuff into the conversation?
> >Istvan
> >
> >I think this guy just wanted to see what reaction he would get.  What 
> he wrote is so absurd - and he isn't even able to write English properly. 
>  I agree with Istvan - the best thing is to ignore him because all he 
> wants is attention.

 What 'megorov' is doing is known as 'trolling' in the online folklore -
making up ridiculously stupid provocative statements in the hope of
igniting flamewars. Just ignore it, will you please everybody ;-(! 

- --
 Zoli , keeper of <http://www.hix.com/hungarian-faq/>;
*SELLERS BEWARE: I will never buy anything from companies associated
*with inappropriate online advertising (unsolicited commercial email,
*excessive multiposting etc), and discourage others from doing so too!


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From:	 (Gyorgy Kovacs)
To:	

In article > you write:
>CONTRY: Hungary
>CULTURE:Non  European
>RACE:      Non  European ( Mongolic Turk)
>RELIGION: (Inpoused) Cristian
>HISTORY: Play the role of mercenarys (Very relible for Austrans)
>ECONOMY: Dependening on Austria,GERMANY
>POLACY:  Commanded by  AUSTRO-GERMANS
>FUTURE:   Unknown

Are you just plain stupid, or just trying to rev up a flame war?

You obviously don't know anything. You shall be ignored.

In article >, MEgorov > wrote:
>Subj:    Re: HUNGARIAN LANGUAGE
>Date:    96-06-17 23:33:02 EDT
>From:    MEgorov
>To: 
>
>It is a delate to converse with people who ignore words as "stupid" and
>"bullshit"
>even if provoked.
>My statement  which definatly irritated you to a point of sincere
>exchalacition was 
>stated  by me NOT IN DISRESPECT TO A  PARTICUCLAR NATIONALITY.
>It was ment to show (to those who are thinking important and
>implicitly...,arogant 
>and aristocratic) that the nature of things is tri-dimensional
>(approachable from all sides 
>in a  logical manner).
>My statement approached you at the right time and will  definitly have an
>imact on you ,
>(if you are not an ignorant).
>Furthermore, it is my duty to respond to your provocation.
>You must be familiar with the so called "URALIC" or "FINO UGRIC"
>languages.
>From Britanica:"Racially the Uralic people present an unhomogeneous
>picture.
>In general,they may be consedered a blend of Europeans and Mongoloid
>types,with the 
>more western groups(especially the Hunganrians,Baltic-Finnic and Erzya
>Mardvin groups)being strongly European and those east of the Urals
>primarily Mongoloid".
>Here we can add Constantine Porphyrogenitus,who constantly called the
>Hungarians
>"Turks".
>And certanly the writer of your anonymous chronicle, who states that the
>Huns of "Flagellum  Dei" are the Hungarians of today.
>
>

In addition to three or four Muzikas CDs which feature Marta, she has two
solo releases.  "Apocrypha" was released in 1992 and is a more new age
sound and "Kismet" was just released recently.  It is an anthology of folk
music which includes not just Hungarian but also Irish, Greek, Bulgarian,
Indian and Romanian.  I have bought all of these CDs at my local Tower
Records.  BTW, Musikas with Marta Sebestyen just completed a tour of the
U.S. in March.  They seem to come through ever 2 or 3 years.

T. Kocsis  > wrote:
>
>Szerintem nem igy mukodik. A komcsik kihasznaljak
>a kamposorruakat azzal, hogy ha egy kommunistat,
>ami faji es vallasi felekezeten kivuleso alacsony-
>rendu es pusztitando eletforma, tamadas er, elkezd
>visitani, hogy antiszemitizmus, antiszemitizmus !! 
>Az emlitett nepcsoportban ez a szo [1] felteteles ref-
>lexeket indit el, es heves kenyszeres visongasba kez-
>denek. A tetves kommunistat megtamado egyen erre
>visszakozni kenyszerul. A kommunista jot rohog a
>markaba.

Szerintem ez csak egy masik vetulete egy szimbiotikus viszonynak.
Ugyanarrol a dologrol van szo.

Pannon J.

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