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HIX HUNGARY 988
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1997-05-03
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Megrendelés Lemondás
1 Re: Peddling Snake Oil (mind)  59 sor     (cikkei)
2 Re: church growth in Hungary (mind)  12 sor     (cikkei)
3 Re: church growth in Hungary (mind)  16 sor     (cikkei)
4 Re: Wanker (mind)  14 sor     (cikkei)
5 missing posts (mind)  24 sor     (cikkei)
6 Re: church growth in Hungary (mind)  7 sor     (cikkei)
7 Re: church growth in Hungary (mind)  11 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Re: Peddling Snake Oil (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

I find increasingly more difficult to be polite with JWs,
as they are now always dragging young children
with them. Also I hear more and more stories of their
children dying of diabetes and other rutinely
curable ailments - though I think there
were a few prosecutions now in the US.
Also, so far they've got all dates for the End
wrong - how can they go on with it?
Religion is a type of self-hypnosis, that can be
theraputic (sp?) for some ... but a waste of energy and loss
of critical faculties, or at worst, bigottry and wars
for others.


>
> At 01:13 PM 5/2/97 -0700, Gabor Fencsik wrote:
>
> >As I said, they don't go door-to-door around here.  The Jehovah's
> >witnesses do.  When they show up, we have a very short conversation, to
> >which I contribute exactly six words: "Thank you, I am not interested."
> >I recommend smiling while you say that.
>
>         I am a real coward when it comes to such encounters. My very first
> one was in Canada about two years after my arrival and I thought that the
> best way out of the situation was to claim that my English was too poor.
> (Well, it was poor but not so poor that I couldn't understand their stuff.).
> However, it was no good. The next question was: "What is your mother
> tongue?" I said that it was Hungarian, hoping that that would be the end of
> it. But no, they smiled and they assured me that they have the Hungarian
> version and they will return! And they did!!
>         Nowadays I get Jehovah's witnesses rather frequently. Always two
> women: one white and one black but not necessarily the same ones. They start
> telling me their story, pull out the last issue of Watch Tower. I keep
> smiling and nodding when they tell me about how relevant the Bible is to the
> modern world. And they give me the Watch Tower or some other publication. I
> thank them and they leave. Sometime they return and ask whether I read the
> Watch Tower or not. I tell that that yes I did and it was very interesting.
> I simply don't have the heart to tell them to get lost. They look so earnest.
>         And that reminds me of what was going on in 1956/57. After arriving
> in Austria we were most surprised to find out that suddenly religion was an
> important consideration. It made a huge difference whether you were a
> Catholic, a Protestant, or a Jew because most of the charities were
> organized through church organizations. This could be a real nuisance. For
> example, a group of us, who were eventually tired of "waiting for Godot" in
> the Austrian Alps decided to travel to Vienna and expedite matters, were
> sent to several different organizations to get the money for the train
> tickets!! Of course, this system was open for abuse. The word spread in
> Vienna: the Lutherans are giving away this or that. Suddenly a lot of people
> became Lutherans.
>         In any case, after arriving in Canada, the churches started
> pestering you. If the Catholic priest phoned, I was Hungarian Reformed
> (which I was) but when the Hungarian Reformed minister phoned suddenly I
> became a Catholic. That system worked very nicely. ESB
>
>
>
>
>

+ - Re: church growth in Hungary (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

aheringer wrote:
>
> >Well, when people commit crimes in the name of what-you-have, it is
> >not necessarly the fault of the people starting with what-you-have
> >back in old days...
> >Regards
> >MKH
>
> I fully agree with this and your previous posting.  Agnes
Hello Agnes, you4ve been silent for a while.
Welcome back.
Miklos
+ - Re: church growth in Hungary (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

aheringer wrote:
>
> >
> >Many people are religious and believe that their faith will make this a
> >better world.  Why is it that I can't criticize them without people
> calling
> >me intolerant?
> >Nothing is wrong with religious people who find comfort in their
> religion as long as they don't want other people to believe in their
> ideas too.  I respect everybody's religion - but I expect everybody
> respecting mine too.
>
> Agnes
Will they learn that? If you listen to the list, sometimes it doesn4t
look like...
Miklos
+ - Re: Wanker (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >, Ferenc Novak
> writes:

>
>What's the use of this type of personal attack?  Others might argue that
>Stowe might actually be better but for the foreign sound of it.
>
>Ferenc

Frank, where the hell have you been? Parole board accepting bribes again?
Sam Stowe

Think globally;
act erratically.
+ - missing posts (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

S.Stowe was refering to this earlier post:

>In article >,
>Peter Stefanics > writes:
>
>>
>>I guess claiming that Janos is a stupid and unimaginative liar doesn't
>>quite belong in a rational argument.
>>
>>Truly,
>>
>>Peter Stefanics     "Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious
    people. It is wholly inadequate for the government
>of
>>(413-597-6723)       any other."  - John Adams, 1798
>>
>>            "When rap is inevitable, lie back and enjoy it."
>>

What is this ? I did not get this earlier letter from P.Stefanics. Furthermore
I checked all the last seven Hungary issues, and I could not find any trace of
these posts. What is going on here?

J.Zs
+ - Re: church growth in Hungary (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

>Well, when people commit crimes in the name of what-you-have, it is
>not necessarly the fault of the people starting with what-you-have
>back in old days...
>Regards
>MKH

I fully agree with this and your previous posting.  Agnes
+ - Re: church growth in Hungary (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

>
>Many people are religious and believe that their faith will make this a
>better world.  Why is it that I can't criticize them without people
calling
>me intolerant?
>Nothing is wrong with religious people who find comfort in their
religion as long as they don't want other people to believe in their
ideas too.  I respect everybody's religion - but I expect everybody
respecting mine too.

Agnes

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