I turn on the 'ol box .. and what do I see?  Geesh Josephe dahling!  You
are beginning to sound more and more like an politician as the posts come
pouring in! ..... say, have you considered such?
>--------------------

>snippity doity>
>average Joe,'" said Steve Saldanha, an economist with Canada Trust in
Toronto.
[...]
Wonder if this same economist at one time might have been a shareholder or
an advocator of that famous "B" stock?

<snip>
>The unemployement rates in both Canada and Hungary are above 10 per cent.
>That's got to be good news for the stock market!  Such large numbers of
>unemployed are bound to push wages down.  And that, of course, is great
>news for investors and the well-to-do.  Workers will be cheaper than ever.
[...]
In reading this, I am left to wonder as to which era if not continent you
are actually living in... When do you recall it was that unions have
actually bowed down to a "push wages down" trend? ...  Or for that matter,
when was the last time you recall, that private enterprise engaged in such
a practice?

>In 1989, Hungary, and other Eastern Bloc countries, had to change.
>However, it's becoming clear that not everyone is benefiting from the
>change.  The old, the poor, and the 10 per cent unemployed are not doing
>too well.  The real question is; How long will they put up with the present
>course?
[...]
You're not far from facts  .... in your first statement that is.  As for
the second ... you might broaden that to encompass a wider scope of
geographical positioning?  Regarding the third, ditto, and then some more
 ....  re: last, You need not look any further than Canada.  When doing so,
answers to your own questions ought to become quite clear ... if not
crystal clear.  Not to neglect addressing your subject title ..... C'on
Joe! ... you're beginning to sound more and more like Durant!  Lotsa
verbalized concerns/warnings et al for your perceived to be less
advantaged, with el zippo in solution I mean:-).

Best, Aniko

Dear Colleagues,

6:30 PM Saturday: I just learned that the President will visit Romania, will
also meet with the  representatives of the Hungarian minority and is likely
to specifically refer to the peticion of the Hungarian Lobby in his spech.
With our petition I also transmitted to him a request for the return of
Hungarian schools and church properties.

Thanks to all of you who helped with this HL-action. Particular thanks to
Gotthard Saghi Szabo fpr the Internet support, Peter Kovalszki for initiating
and to Peter Orban for organizing and leading the peticion drive.

Best regards: Bela Liptak

Finally I have discovered why Joe is so intent to prove his Hungarian
ancestry: he can whine a lot and be  as pessimistic as any Hungarian.
Or is this only a sympathy whining and pessimism?

Joe Szalai wrote:
>
> The following article was in todays Record (Kitchener, Ontario).
> --------------------
> Toronto
> Stock markets soar
> U.S. unemployment figures give TSE and NY a boost
>
> Reports of growing unemployment in the United States prompted gleeful
> traders to push the Toronto and New York stock markets into record
> territory on Thursday.
>
> "It's the old adage that, 'What's good for the markets in bad for the
> average Joe,'" said Steve Saldanha, an economist with Canada Trust in Toronto
.

   Is he "the" Steve Saldanha? Now I feel secure knowing that he has
saved the world from disaster.
   BTW, who reads the Kitchener Record beside the average JOE.

> ---------
> The unemployement rates in both Canada and Hungary are above 10 per cent.
> That's got to be good news for the stock market!  Such large numbers of
> unemployed are bound to push wages down.  And that, of course, is great
> news for investors and the well-to-do.  Workers will be cheaper than ever.
>
> In 1989, Hungary, and other Eastern Bloc countries, had to change.
> However, it's becoming clear that not everyone is benefiting from the
> change.  The old, the poor, and the 10 per cent unemployed are not doing
> too well.  The real question is; How long will they put up with the present
> course?
>
   I am still wondering whether Joe will ever say anything positive
about
anything. I shouldn't, of course. But how can he live with so much hate?

Amos

I sincerley wish,good luck to Bela Liptak,who apparently does not have
anything else to do,just pester the List with his constant demands for action.
Personaly once I see his name on my mail,I just automaticly delete them.
At 06:45 PM 7/5/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Dear Colleagues,
>
>6:30 PM Saturday: I just learned that the President will visit Romania, will
>also meet with the  representatives of the Hungarian minority and is likely
>to specifically refer to the peticion of the Hungarian Lobby in his spech.
>With our petition I also transmitted to him a request for the return of
>Hungarian schools and church properties.
>
>Thanks to all of you who helped with this HL-action. Particular thanks to
>Gotthard Saghi Szabo fpr the Internet support, Peter Kovalszki for initiating
>and to Peter Orban for organizing and leading the peticion drive.
>
>Best regards: Bela Liptak
>
>
Andy Kozma

Toronto.